Thursday, October 26, 2006

Winds of Change


Can you feel it?

Nepalis are getting fed-up. Maoist atrocities are increasing and it's the same old inept "business as usual" from Girija and his cronies.

An actual "People's Movement" is starting to take hold. For the first time, we see what appears to be mass, spontaneous outrage and intolerance of Maoist cruelty. Just a few days ago, thousands of citizens took to the streets in Jhapa in a mass display of disgust at Maoist atrocities. It seems one band of clueless cadres thought that playing dice and cards during Tihar was a Maoist moral no, no. Oops! For a group of violent little boys who claim to represent "The People," how could they have miscalculated so? Everyone knows you DO NOT mess with traditional gambling games during Dashain or Tihar. The little Maoists were subsequently thrashed and paraded naked through the streets.

Listen Prachanda, looking the other way and claiming that atrocities by your cadres is "not authorized" no longer holds sway in the villages. Retalliations for Maoist acts are increasing in numbers and people are tired of living in fear. Witness this report off Mercantile's site (paraphrased):


Irate by the continuous excesses of the Maoists, local people of Sarlahi vandalized two barriers at Ranijung area of the district put by the Maoists for collecting taxes from the vehicles plying at the street.
Local vandalized the barriers and chanted slogans against Maoists, protesting the Maoist’s act of taking into control a local youth and beaten him seriously in the charge of consuming alcohol on Tuesday.
The locals also warned Maoists not to collect any form of taxes in the area and also warned of dire consequences if they did not obey.
In another incident, seven people including four Maoists were injured, when villagers protesting the Maoist atrocities clashed with the Maoists in eastern Jhapa district on Tuesday evening, radio reports said.
Three locals and four Maoists were injured, when a group of 15 Maoists attacked locals, who were protesting against Maoist excesses at Kumari bazaar of the district.
The villagers taken into control four Maoists injured in the incident.
In yet another incident local people of Situwa bazaar of Dhankuta district organized Situwa bazaar bandh (Shut-down) and also blocked the Koshi highway protesting the Maoist excesses.
They protested the rebels move to take into control people playing cards in Tihar festival and confiscating money from them.
Maoist leadership however refutes such reports of Maoist excesses saying it is against the party policy, but they remained indifferent from the acts of their cadres. nepalnews.com pb Oct 25 06


Perhaps people are finally realizing that there is no central controlling mechanism running the Maoists. They are no more than roving gangs of autonomous thugs that must be dealt with on the ground level where they operate.

And then there is the Nepal Jana Tantrik party. blogdai loves this because such an organization is formed and gets its support under the same mandate that launched the Maoists to power: dissatisfaction withs the status quo. In this case, the dissatisfaction is not only with SPA ineptitude again, but with Maoisms brutal hand in the villages.

"An armed struggle has been declared from the far west to show disagreement with the current political activities under which all others except the seven political parties making up the SPA and the Maoists are being treated badly..." says the party. They plan a series of "sabotage" programs that will begin this December. We need to watch this closely.

First off, as Dr. Marks has told us, the Maoists will broach no rivals in the field. That is why they loved to knock-off UML's rural representatives. If this Jana Tantrik party is for real, look for real clashes with the Maoists. If this is in fact a true people's front, this could spell the end for Maoism in Nepal.

Next, and more critical, the Jana Tantrik party needs to downplay their "royal" support. This could turn them into no more than just another violent faction with its own unilateral political dogma. Maoists in different stripes, if you will. No, this party will succeed only if it is inclusive. It is enough to portray oneself as the lone voice willing to stand up to Maoist tyrrany and government inattention on behalf of rural citizens. These themes alone are enough to unify Nepal and get a wide base of public (not coerced) support. Is Jana Tantrik the catalyst for unity? Only time will tell.

The important thing is that there is a palpable realization that people are moving past their fears and taking matters into their own hands. Perhaps a true leader will emerge from this. A leader with public service and national unity as a goal.

-=blogdai

http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/oct/oct25/news10.php

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/southasia/article_1211576.phP





89 Comments:

At 10:44 AM, October 30, 2006, Anonymous BHudai Pundit said...

Blogdai, I sure hope you are right and the 'people' will repel these damn Maoists!

 
At 11:15 AM, October 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhusiya Punditey,

People won't only repel the Maoists they will also repel the gawd damned SPA who collaborated with the terrorists.

In the mean time, I am ready to be the leader of Nepal!

 
At 8:42 PM, October 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry for cut and paste but relevant news. However, I do not understand why they want to nominate half the members. That is not democratic.

Breakthrough on arms issue



By Ameet Dhakal


KATHMANDU, Oct 31 - The government and the Maoists have made a breakthrough on the issue of arms management.
"A breakthrough acceptable to the government, the Maoists and also the international community has been reached," said a leader involved in the negotiations.

According to the understanding, all of the rebels' weapons will be stored and locked up in the respective cantonments where the combatants are cantoned, before the Maoists join the interim government. The Maoist leadership will keep the keys to the stores. But the UN will install fixed cameras to monitor the storage and will have the right to make inspections whenever it desires.

The deal also has an element of reciprocity: Equal number of weapons belonging to the Nepali Army will be stored and locked up at the barracks and the UN will inspect these as well. Until the constituent assembly elections takes place, both the Maoist combatants and Nepali Army personnel will be confined within their respective cantonments and barracks.

A cabinet sub-committee, which might potentially evolve into a separate ministry over time, will be formed to take up the issues of restructuring and reform of the Nepali Army, integration of the Maoist combatants into the army and reform of the whole security system. It will also develop a comprehensive plan to "right-size" the army and to rehabilitate the extra combatants from both sides into society.

The breakthrough on arms management came following a similar breakthrough on political issues last week. "Now the top level leaders will review the whole package of agreements and a 'summit meeting' will make the agreements public in a day or two," said the leader.

The leader, however, said the CPN-UML insisted even today that the future of the monarchy should be decided by a national referendum and the cut-off year for settling the citizenship dispute should be 1979. "But we think the UML will give up its stance eventually."

Commission for state restructuring

The parties and the Maoists have also agreed to form a powerful commission that will study and explore the options and modalities on restructuring the Nepali state to make it more inclusive and progressive.

Political agreements

On the political front the leaders have already agreed to form a 23-member interim government in which the Nepali Congress, CPN-UML and the Maoists will get five ministries each. The rest of the ministries will go to the Nepali Congress (Democratic) and fringe parties.

Similarly, the interim legislature will have 300 members with more or less equal representation for the NC, the CPN-UML and the Maoists. The NC, CPN-UML and other parties will nominate all the sitting lawmakers in the House of Representatives and the upper house to the new legislature.

Likewise, the Constituent Assembly (CA) will have 425 members. 205 members will be elected from the current constituencies and the parties will nominate 204 members in proportion to the popular vote they garner in the CA elections. The prime minister will nominate the remaining 16 members. The parties have agreed to decide the future of the monarchy through the first meeting of the constituent assembly.

 
At 3:49 AM, October 31, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not ever imagine they will blow by the wayside- you'd need a flame thrower to get rid of these leeches.

Lets not repeat the folly of Chamberline- Appeasement.

sansar

 
At 6:33 PM, October 31, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never had I read any news so enthusiastically since the past few months as this one in ekantipur explaining peoples’ explicit revolt against Maoist atrocities. While most of the human right activist and intellectual civilians are busy displaying their dubious role- this time, by condemning the Maoist mayhem through interviews and statements, the people did the same through their vivid unmatchable power. I think by now Maoist should realize that the violence in different forms which they have been using to paint the country with blood could be used against them too. And why not? Maoists don’t understand words, they don’t have language, and they are deaf and blind. They have never heard people’s painful agony, never seen their wounds and have been always oblivious to the trauma millions experiencing. They understand violence because they speak violence, act violence and see violence. Hence rightfully deserve too.

 
At 8:39 PM, October 31, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

And I think it is coming back to get them!

Anyway blogdai may I suggest that you encourage your visitors to post the link to the articles as opposed to the entire article... just a friendly suggestion.

 
At 1:49 AM, November 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The incidents and accidents of people's revolt against Maoist is insignificant. The wind of change does not happen by itself or by people saying e'nuff is e'nuff. If that was the case, we would not be in this soup.

Time is for instigator- we need to pool in to do the "right thing." Simply saying people have had enough and will fight back is misnomer and a misplaced trust.

The way the things are- unless we learn to defend what is sacred to us such as values of individual freedom, equality without discrimination and rule of law- the incident of flare-ups between the locals and the maoist is nothing of significance. Time right for coordinated push back of the all the wrongs and doing the "right thing." I say.

Acting Saintly, highly intellectuals, or just pundtry on the issues of the day is long gone. The insidious rot that has set in too deep for comfort and only way you would get rid off it is by being aggressive about it not by being pansy or reading too much off it or in it. Not to offend the smart alecks who still believe in 'on/under/above the table" strategies- I say at least be true to yourself for your kid's sake and stop mumbo jumboing on issue that is beyond your realm. All you are doing is creating debate that has no meaning or the audience. Do not get me wrong, I ain't make my day kinda guy but did you see any other option.

 
At 3:57 AM, November 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai says:

If this Jana Tantrik party is for real, look for real clashes with the Maoists. If this is in fact a true people's front, this could spell the end for Maoism in Nepal.

Wishful thinking! Didn't Dr. Marks say hope is not a method??

 
At 6:20 AM, November 01, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Yes, but action is a method and the Jana Tantrik party has established their platform and has made concrete plans for December. No wishful thinking there, they are starting at the grass roots with a "sabotage" program. Blogdai can't wait to see the Maoist response.

 
At 8:56 AM, November 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai, let's join Jana Tantrik party or start our own...say what?

Me for 100% Absolute Monarchy...a little more rigid than Panchayat days...the King will rule everything...there will be elections to chose different ministers from the public. So basically we will get rid of this vicious circle of SPAM. But only people with brains can join our party.

 
At 1:59 AM, November 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not fool ourselves in thinking that all will be honky dory just because Maoist and SPA shake hands and reach a Historical accord. Both of these goons are in bind so they need to show something and show they will- but by standing on a loose ground. SPA will agree to disagree and vice- versa. It will be like marriage in rocks, actually it is in rocks. So the usual fare of he said, she said, done me wrong, trust broken and shit galore will fly out but bottom-line is its a dead-end- no winner will come out of it. So the moral of this story is- get prepared and don't get swayed by the idea that two henchmen for India will quietly resolve their differences when all they see is silver platter all with rich pickings 1. money, 2. power,3.chance of a lifetime to mould a nation even if it means killing half of the population 4. reign of terror 5. reign of confusion.

Lets support Jana Trantrik- at least have one on our side to fight the menace and act of violence of SPAM- I guess you're not gonna call police when you are in trouble, are you? Its a necessity that we have affiliation with this group in order to survive and protect our way of life. Lets support Jana Trantrik.

 
At 5:01 AM, November 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

But only people with brains can join our party.

Yep, sounds like none of you would qualify to join your own party then! ;)

This blog is turning more and more into a comedy with each passing day!

 
At 6:16 AM, November 02, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Support Jana Tantrik, sure, for the time being. More importantly, support what Jana Tantrik stands for: a fed-up, grass-roots, citizen organization taking matters into their own hands in the absence of viable government protection.

Blogdai feels the RNA is biding its time. The military knows that the only way to defeat the Maoists is with the active non-compliance of rural citizens against Maoists demands and an increasing rural intolerance of Maoist atrocities.

The last thing the RNA wants is for Maoist guerillas to, once again, fade seemlessly into the lives of pliant villagers at the first sign of an RNA presence. If you'll remember, this was the mechanism whereby maoists claimed all manner of human rights violations by RNA troops.

Let's just let Jana Tantrik run for a while and see where it leads us.

-=blogdai

 
At 11:02 AM, November 02, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Yes you are right the NA (not the RNA by the way) will need to fight the Maoists with the help of the villagers. But like I have mentioned, the NA will need to reform itself and do things alot differently!!!

 
At 10:29 PM, November 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhudia, you seem lost and confused, you are neither here or there. Sitting in a fence will do you no good. You speak of RNA and reform but fail to understand the gravity of the situation. If reform is what you require then is this the time? Why do you think villagers will rally around RNA - are you implying that RNA should act as Militia of Maoist. Waiting for star to fall tendencies will further create problem.

But the point I want to make is even with your understanding of the real situation your misplaced hope will surely aggravate situation more rather than rectify it.

Now, do you support Jana trantrik or not? If you continue to walk in the middle of the road then prepared to be a road kill.

 
At 11:31 PM, November 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that Nepal is in brink of communist dominated rule shows that sometime what you create, really takes life of its own. India must be quite aware of this. And we,Nepali, experts at tall talks have once again failed to realize the gravity of the situation- a loss of nationhood- be it obvious or hidden- its occuring.

The times may not be far off when "jihad" to liberate and maintain sovereignty will be overriding call of the few or the mass- time will decide but the omnious sign are getting clearer day by day.

As for me and people like me- for richer or poorer being a Nepali is pride that demands to be upheld at any cost.

 
At 3:23 AM, November 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At any cost? Do you seriously mean that?

Would you rather be upheld as a Nepali even if that means you sell half of Nepal to the highest bidder or kill another 15000 Nepalis?

Who do the Jantantrik really represent? What is their manifesto other than to pick up arms to kill Nepalis? Supporting Jantantrik just because they are pro-king makes you no better than the Maobadi goons.

 
At 8:24 AM, November 03, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Anon:
I don't understand why you are saying I am in the middle of the road.
I had hoped that the peace process would be successful and the Moaists would come to their sense. But obviously, that has not happened and these Maoist goons have continued with their deplorable behavior. Since, I see the peace talks leading to nowhere, I think that we will have to go back to fighting. How is that a middle of the road approach?

I do think the army will need to do things differently because their previous attempt to curb the Maoists was not successful at all! Random aerial bombardment only killed more innocent people created alot of resentment amongst the villagers towards the RNA. Also the soilders behaviors in many cases at the villagers was just as bad as the Maoists and it was proving to be counterproductive.
I am not saying change the army altogeather but they must employ smarter strategies that revolve around intelligence gathering, if they want to hit the Moaists. For example instead of just bombing an entire village, it would be so much more effective if they found out where the Moaoists were holding a meeting and bombed that instead.

Don't you agree?

 
At 7:54 AM, November 04, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 3:23pm. Its the situation that defines mode of attack or retreat. You have raised an issue of "at any cost" and let me briefly counter it. I had hoped better sense would prevail and the plague in the cloth of Maoist and SPA will be countered back by the "good people who would not keep quite" but thats not the case. Two wrongs do not make it right, I agree but I see no other option than that, do you?

In regards to remaining Nepali, you betchyo your last dollar- its at any cost. Careless if you see no difference between Maoist and freedom fighter. Is there a need to justify it to you? I think NOT, better still justify it with Maoist first

 
At 10:54 AM, November 04, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not the kind who is expert at sermons but frankly speaking I am getting scared day by day as any other. The reason is simple. There is no sense of security nor government and in times like this- its free for all. Call it anarchy or whatever but the fact is living in Nepal is like walking on blade of a sword. The mental torture is getting quite oppressive to say the least beside the uneasy disquiet that prevails in the city.

Now, people can continue to sermon with pros and cons about Maoist and SPA but the bottom-line is do we have contigency in place when the stark reality of brutality and threat walks in through the door?

Lets be honest, we will have to face it someday like it or not but it will be better if we are prepared ( just dunno how) but nonetheless prepared. Even if it means putting cap on zeal of Loktrantra.

 
At 8:06 PM, November 04, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Personally I see the likihood of military confrontation once again. Clearly the peace process is not working...

 
At 12:52 AM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhusiya ask your terrorist politicians to take up arms against their terrorist friends. Because RNA is hell not going to support SPA.

 
At 6:28 AM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

They are not my terrorist politians because I don't like them anymore than you do okay?
And the NA will have to support a democratic government because they don't have a choice!
Let's be realisitic. The king taking over again is out of the question. I don't think Raja G has the nerves nor the brains to repeat that again. He had his chance man but he messed up. If he played his cards right, today Nepal would have been a better place and no one would have given a rat's ass about democracy etc. But that's not the case...

Also I don't really envision an army coup in Nepal. I don't think our army has that ambition.
Also Anon, why don't you understand that if the army fights under a democratic government we will continue to get military aid and international support - both which we are badly in need of.

 
At 8:52 AM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhusiya,

Why don't you get the simple point that it's NOT a democratic government but a TERRORIST one. It's a combination of all corruption and terrorism mixing together to bring more harm to Nepal instead of peace. And talk of getting military aid. This government has and will receive none. And don't worry RNA, it's loyalty to Palace and people of Nepal can never be doubted. So your terrorists are out of question here.

 
At 5:03 PM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous MD said...

The king is still calling the shots. Some people are just too stupid to know it!

As long as he controls the Army ( call it what you want RNA,NA it makes no difference)he is the man in charge.

The General's are still king's men. Hell, most of them are his family members by blood or marriage.

Give me the name of one of them who says he will not take his orders from the king and I will kiss your ass:-)

 
At 10:13 PM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its the height of stupidity folks. Few diehard commies and SPA who are coat tailing on the backs of Maoist are deciding the fate of the nation and us. Are we willing to afford them this chance? Is this what is all about. Lets not assure ourselves that we are in days of Loktrantra or democracy- its the tyranny by the Minority. And to remain mute spectator will be mother of all crime.

There is no sense in debate or discourse, is there? Does anyone hear your insights, nada. So the next logical thing to do would be to shut-up and be action oriented. Enuff of Socrates & Dante. Unless you are happy with the turn of events and see it as a divine intervention and fate.

So let Prachande, Ian Martin and Girja decide on what we should be and how it should be for we are mere pawn and fate is already sealed and delivered. If otherwise then we all know what needs to be done- tulips and rose are out and sticks and stones is the answer. If you really look at the whole scheme of things.

 
At 11:57 PM, November 05, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 10:13,

Good observation. Every one of us is looking at the right opportunity and time.

 
At 2:25 AM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you guys don't want peace in Nepal? Just when the Maoists are beginning to be tamed and peace is breaking, you want to be spoilers.

If you have something constructuve to offer, why don't you come up with them instead? Anyone can pick up guns and terrorize. Where's the heroism in that?

 
At 7:50 AM, November 06, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Tamed? Through what part of some wild prism of denial do you view increased atrocities, stopping army convoys, beating up NC cadres and, oh yes, the wonderful return of forced child conscription for military training as tamed? Maoists are operating under the same, rigid and unbending philosophy that launched their movement over a decade ago.

The only reason you hear that a peace accord is imminent is because there is now so much international pressure for peace in Nepal that Girija can no longer simply sweep aside the appearance of action. Remember the "cool and confident" Girija guaranteeing a peaceful settlement immediately after Tihar? Well? We read almost daily where some politician or Maoist is claiming with absolute certainty that the talks will be successful any day now. Hmmm. Have they even bothered to schedule the next round yet?

No, unless Ian Martin, in his talk with Prachanda, promised the Maoists international legitimacy, there will be NO settlement. Or, there will be a settlement that is either unenforcable or so weak as to neither change Maoists activities in the field nor compel the politicians to actually govern their people.

Knock it off with this ignorant chorus of: "..oh, the Maoists are finally on the verge of peace..." and similar nonsense.

I've been writing this for over a year and a half now so for the last time, MAOISTS DON'T NEGOTIATE.

Get used to it.

I tend to agree with our readers here that finally see the need for reciprocal action against Maoisms atrocities. As Dr.Marks implies, simply saying "there is no military solution" is a self-righteous brush off of what is perhaps the ONLY solution to Maoism. (See blogdai: "7 Points")

-=blogdai

 
At 5:10 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Well Blogdai, the Maoist would have negotiated if the SPA was stronger, laid down some strict conditions and presented a united front. Unfortunetly, none of those things are true.
Ultimately Prachanda and Baburam are two rejects trying to prove themslves. I don't think they would opt for hiding in the jungles and fighting if they could get some political legetimacy.
Two things really helped them out.

1. The SPA are incompetant and weak. Plus they lack the popular support of the people and they have no moral authority.

2. King G's Feb 1st move. The SPA were desperate and they went and joined hands with the Maoists thereby giving the Maoist this seeming legetimacy and providing them a passage to gain more prominance. It polorized the country and it made it the King vs. everyone else. Plus G did a poor job on delivering on his promises.

 
At 5:19 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous vermin said...

dear blogdai,

heard enough of your trumpeting pipe. ok! ok! you are the piped piper and we are the rodents, we follow you. but it's been a long time you have been taking us round and round. now it is getting nauseous and you better take us to some definite destination.

SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, WE DO?

 
At 5:33 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai,
blah, blah, blah, wa, wa, wa!!!

Maoist--> terrorist
SPA--> incompetent fools
King--> stupid

Tell us something we don't know for once. Don't need to tell us that we are hip dip into shit, dammit, we know that.

tell us how to get out of it, if you don't have a clue then SHUT UP!

 
At 7:43 PM, November 06, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

I rather enjoy saying "I told you so" to my boo babies who, for the past year, have been wetting their pants at the thought of getting even with anyone remotely Royal in background or demeanor. "Oh, blogdai you royalist, the "people" have spoken and overthrown the cruel murderous despotic King G.
We now have a "pure democracy" they said. "A new era has dawned, they crowed." Basically, just because a bunch of party-supported little university boys took to the streets, they thought they had changed the world.

Pathetic, shallow and above all, poorly conceived.

Now look at you. Looking around for your next demonstration and your next rock to throw. None of you can handle democracy. What do we do now? It looks like we backed the wrong horse. Fools. So swept up were you in your little "revolution" that you never took the time to plan, select or adequately scrutinize those you would put back in power. You were used and now you beg for rescue.

Girija pushed your anti-royal buttons while the Maoists pushed you from your homes and onto the front lines of protest. They got what they wanted, did you?

You ask me what to do next. Does it matter? Why would I believe you are capable of taking practical advice when you feverishly ignored the most obvious and remedial warning signs that should have told any discerning infant that you can't have a new start by either replacing corrupt old fools to power or allying with terrorists.

"What shall we do, blogdai?" You pathetic waste of a coward. Well, start with learning to think, organize and take charge of your own future; then come back here for advice. If you get to that point, try these practical steps next:

1. Organize local villagers to deal with Maoists at the grass roots level. Hand-to-hand, violent if necessary. Take away Prachanda's tactical advantages one village at a time.

2. Demand elections immediately or physically throw out Koirala. He'll never do it so throw him out anyway. Elections are the NUMBER ONE most fundamental means of presenting your views to the government. To not have them is to not have democracy.

3. Start your own parallel government. Make strict rules of no corruption and absolute commitment to public service, elections and rule of law. Elect locally to your new group. Challenge and overthrow the current corrupt old guard.

4. Form a bridge-alliance with the RNA, King and any party seeking a legitimate representative government. Heal Nepal's wounds, don't divide.

That's enough for now. there are plenty more but I'm sure these alone will be enough to befuddle you. If you can't seem to bring yourself to acting in a fashion that even remotely resembles the 4 points above, bend over and take you ass-whipping like the coward you are; you are not ready to lead, or think independently--the fundamental seed-component of citizens in a functioning democracy.

Either take charge or be victimized.

-=blogdai

 
At 8:23 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Blogdai,
What did you think about my comment.
Do oyu agree with what I am saying?

 
At 9:47 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets "do the the right thing." Its a compulsion now that unless we act as pack of wolfs (aka Krantikaris)we stand to lose. Like I said before, situation and environments defines the mode of attack. Kag ko bagal ma kag bhanaparcha ( in crowd of crow, gotta be crow) even if it hurts your pride. Unless we understand this- we are nowhere.

By this we do not mean open war or call for war but if required we need to do it and not shy way from the responsibility. Its the nation at stake and our way of life.

Lets be in position to cheris what we have and not cheris after its gone. Its never too late to stand up and be counted in order to DO THE RIGHT THING.

 
At 10:19 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous vermin said...

Block-Dai,

A frightening mighty roar from the palace’s harem, if anyone is not the part of your choir, you’re so generous to adorn them with:

‘boo babies, little university boys, Pathetic, shallow, fools, wetting their pants, discerning infant, pathetic waste of a coward, ass-whipping, coward’

Quite mouthful eh! Now let’s see what you have said, keeping the spirit and reciprocating at the same vibe and level.

1. Organize local villagers to deal with Maoists at the grass roots level. Hand-to-hand, violent if necessary. Take away Prachanda's tactical advantages one village at a time.

How convenient for you to give that marching order from the coziness of your comfort. Oh! Yes! ‘Gaun wallo’ pick up your arms just because blog-stupid-dai has summoned you, the saviour of democracy calls for your blood, fight for the ‘right’ master.

I don’t have any problem, you using your RNA, to do your bid, but leave the villagers out. Yes, hand to hand combat! Why don’t you lead, we will follow. You’ve been bitching about all sorts of leaders all the time here; I guess this is time you step up.

Blogdai, I promise to fight with you, if not fight for you, arms in arms, as your Blogbhai, if you step out of your anonymity and join ‘janta ko choro’ to fight against this madness. Even the idea alone is putrid that makes you feel like throw up, when you call local villagers to pick up arms, while you don’t balls to come out of that shadow figure of Blogdai.

Be in a shadow, that’s where you belong, under the royal petticoat.

2. Demand elections immediately or physically throw out Koirala. He'll never do it so throw him out anyway. Elections are the NUMBER ONE most fundamental means of presenting your views to the government. To not have them is to not have democracy.

Surprisingly, we are on the same page on this one.

3. Start your own parallel government. Make strict rules of no corruption and absolute commitment to public service, elections and rule of law. Elect locally to your new group. Challenge and overthrow the current corrupt old guard.

You fool. Didn’t Babu and Parchande say the same thing to the people before they started this movement?

4. Form a bridge-alliance with the RNA, King and any party seeking a legitimate representative government. Heal Nepal's wounds, don't divide.

What can I say on this plea of yours, it is self explanatory.

Either take charge or be victimized.

I have already heeded your suggestion, have packed my knuckle dusters, nunchaku sticks and whetting my machete by the ‘chautari’ just waiting for you to come along to fight hand in hand combats with the Moabadis, with a nom de guerre of ‘Prachanda Pratapi Vupati’.

 
At 10:58 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

looks like blogdai have found a match in this vermin guy.

very intersting to read them.

 
At 11:12 PM, November 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This vermin guy is off his rockers. Do not wish for it,vermin, its too close for your own comfort. Dance with your words but at the end you will face it, and you'd hope it was blogdai rather than your 'prachande path warriors," who would not have patience to listen to your logic or illogical defense in words.

 
At 12:56 AM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prachanda started with the wrong clause and for the wrong cause.

Blogdai, blogdai, you are missing the point again: GET CONTROL OF THE MEDIA! THE MOMENT YOU DO THAT, YOU WIN 90% OF THE BATTLE!

There are only 3 things that can help Nepal now: MEDIA, RNA, MEDIA. But most importantly, someone who organizes the movement very very carefully and runs the show to diamond cutting like precision. And then Jana Tantrik Parties et al. are always there to take help from.

You people have still not the learned the most important lesson from that Shallow Movement.

And Vermin, don't try to put a Nationalist coat over that SPAMming skin of yours. Go back to the terrorists. You are just here to get knowledge regarding "how the grass is getting greener on the other side of the fence?".

 
At 9:22 AM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai,

Yes the Maoists are being tamed, believe it or not. The extortions, killings are continuing but the compare it with the scale of it a year ago. Things are getting better, not worse as you want it.

And that's before arms management. Once the arms management is implemented, we can sure expect to see the extortions decline rapidly. Common sense says that you can reduce extortions and killings not by asking people to take up arms, but by disarming the ones that already do.

Would you want to stay condemned on the wrong side of history even after history has shown the path over and over again? Urging the king to take over power was and is still the worst advice anyone ever gave him! The king better fear fake supporters like you for his own good. It's an existential crisis for him, no less.

 
At 2:00 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

सात दल र माओवादीबीच २२ कार्तिक १ बजे बिहान सहमतिमाथि हस्ताक्षर भएको छ। सहमति बमोजिम ३० कार्तिकसम्ममा शान्ति सम्झैतामा हस्ताक्षर गरिने छ। सहमतिको भाग ६ मा राखिएको समय तालिका अनुसार ५ मंसिरभित्र माओवादी सेना हतियारसहित क्यापभित्र राखिने छ र सोही दिन अन्तरिम संविधान जारी भएको घोषणा गर्दै वर्तमान संसद विगठन गरिने छ।

५ मंसिरमै ३३० सदस्यीय अन्तरिम विधायिका गठन हुने छ। अन्तरिम विधायिकामा हाल दुवै सदनमा रहेका २०९ जना सदस्यसहित माओवादीको तर्फबाट ७३ र बिभिन्न पेशाकर्मी तथा नागरिक समाजको तर्फबाट ४८ जनाको प्रतिनिधित्व हुने छ। दलिय हिसाबले अन्तरिम बिधायिकामा नेपाली काङ्ग्रेसको ७५, नेकपा एमाले र माओवादी ७३-७३, नेपाली काङ्ग्रेस प्रजातान्त्रिक ४२ र अन्य साना दलको १९ प्रतिनिधित्व हुने छ। हाल संसदमा प्रतिनिधित्व नरहेको संयुक्त बाम मोर्चालाई सहमति बमोजिम प्रतिनिधित्व गराइने छ।

संविधान सभामा भाग लिनेको उमेर १८ हुने सहमति भएको छ। यसैबीच संविधान सभाका लागि मिश्रित निर्वाचन प्रणाली तथा राजतन्त्रको बारेमा संविधान सभाको पहिलो बैठकबाट निर्णय लिइने भन्ने दुईवटा सहमतिप्रति नेकपा एमालेले आफ्नो असमति प्रस्तुत गर्दै 'नोट अफ डिसेन्ट' लेखेको छ।

 
At 2:13 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 9:22,

Yes the extortions have gotten less. Infact now you can't call it's extortion. It's Mao's property. Your mother and sister is property of Maoists - they can use them whenever they feel like for their physical pleasure as well as physical security...just like they are using the home and food of Ktm people. Lal Salaam. You Nepalis are doomed, I am out and away.

 
At 4:32 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 2:13,

C'mon, no need to be such a spoilsport. When the whole country is coming together, you are going away? Why, do you want the terrorist activities to continue or what?

Let's see if the extortion levels continue to stay at the same level after Nov. 21st.

Be positive dude! Peace in our times!! :)

 
At 4:33 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 2:13,

C'mon, no need to be such a spoilsport. When the whole country is coming together, you are going away? Why, do you want the terrorist activities to continue or what?

Let's see if the extortion levels continue to stay at the same level after Nov. 21st.

Be positive dude! Peace in our times!! :)

 
At 10:03 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to handed over to dudes who are ga,ga over the peace at last, peace at last- prepared to get real education on how to be a Communist.

When the left (radicals) rises and becomes overbearing, do you think right will sit quiet and rue about the things gone wrong? Don't think so- fire has been lit (we didn't start the fire-Billy Joel), just a matter of time,really.

All is well in brokered peace but wait till it slams in your face.

 
At 11:32 PM, November 07, 2006, Anonymous sarki ko choro said...

Peace in Nepal when the Maoist murderers seems to have upper hand? - dream on guys .. before the inevitable rude awakening!

 
At 1:55 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sarki ko chhoro,

Rude awakening indeed, must have been for you today!

Enemies of peace, maybe you should go back to sleep again!

 
At 6:20 AM, November 08, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

And today we supposedly have an accord...

The only time blogdai will agree with Moriarty is in the aftermath of his last statement that we must now watch "What the Maoists do.." to see if this is legitimate.

Remember how happy and giddy we all were when the Maoists announced their big ceasefire(s)?

It turns out, as we know now, that such proclamations were a mere diversion from increasing Maoists atrocities.

So, ol Girija thinks he's got peace and a "New Nepal" on his hands. If that's the case then someone in parliament will have to learn how to actually govern before we can call this accord a success.

Plus, when have the Maoists ever, EVER, followed through and kept a promise. Me thinks the devil is once again in the details. We can't call this thing a success until the Maoists play along and finally, thoroughly, give up violence.

-=blogdai

 
At 6:21 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous sarki ko choro said...

We will see who is enemy of peace, those who brutally murdered 14000 fellow Nepalese and still hell bent on keeping guns to kill more in the future ..or those who say for what Maoists are - psychopathic killing machines..pretending to be a political party - no wonder they still have terrorist tag in the USA.. they know better than any of the gullible members of the SPA

 
At 6:56 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

nothing is good enough for you is it blogdai?
why can't you admit that this is at least a good positive step in the right direction?
of course we have to be cautious and no one is saying all our problems are over but a journey of a thousand miles begins with that first step.

 
At 6:57 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

this says it all:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6128062.stm


Blogdai is proven wrong again!!!!

 
At 9:26 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Looks like this peace agreement is pretty good - on paper at least. However, the Maoists have suprisingly agreed to strict UN monitoring of their weapons.

Well let's just hope things work out.

 
At 10:12 AM, November 08, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

this is a good positive step in the right direction; happy?

-=BD

 
At 10:20 AM, November 08, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

"this says it all!!!"

Did you not realize I've already addressed this article and others like it? Moronic, behind-the-curve posting from another idiotic, single-issue child with no insight.

Once again, fool, I am fully aware of the accord(?) and all its implications. If you would have stopped flinging your own feces at the issue you would have read that it remains to be seen how the Maoists will react to this in the field. Even dingbat Moriarty sees this.

blogdai would love nothing better than to be proven wrong here; but Maoists and SPA history beg us to take our time, hold all parties accountable for their actions, and wait and see how this materializes.

Yes, let's hope for the best..

I'm still waiting for the method..

-=blogdai

 
At 11:03 AM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you bugger: you're fond of making predictions, no? what does your gidda says?

 
At 12:41 PM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guns or no guns, the Maoists will have enough clout to win the next election. And then what??

 
At 2:30 PM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Prachanda was claiming that the complaints of valley residents being pressured to house and feed Maoists were an exaggeration, maoists were beating the crap out of Patan residents protesting against the Maoist extortion. And this did not make into headlines of any newspaper.

Check out blog.com.np for detail.

 
At 10:16 PM, November 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For I have seen the devil and devil speaks with sly and a forked tongue. Hey, you so much in love with yourself, open up your soul and see the devil inside for you let him loose.

This is for the jackasses, sleazeballs, and screwballs singing praises of mass murderer Prachande and his bands of baffoons.

 
At 3:41 AM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prachanda for president! At last there is a dent of hope, a ray of sunshine. He has made mistakes (who hasn't in Nepal), but Prachanda is looking 'President' material and hopefully will be a fresh change in a country so far (mis)ruled by Ranas, Shahs and so called self-proclaimed democrats. Only worry is the palace and (R)NA will try their best to stop coming elections and we may still have to wait for some more time.
-Sagar

 
At 6:50 AM, November 09, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Yes, such a ray of sunshine and hope! It's much better to be ruled through intimidation and violence than by those mean old Shahs, right?

 
At 7:48 AM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

blogdai,
your pessimism is quiet frankly becoming a bore. get over yourself and accept the fact that you are just wrong okay? i don't know who you are or what your affliation to the palace is but all you ever seem to think is that the monarchy is always the solution. frankly i think you are so far removed from the reality of nepal you just have no clue what is happening. i was aghast when i read your comment on another thread in which you recommened the king take over again and let the army kill all the moaists. that goes a long way to show your thinking. of course for you this is like some rambo movie - you have nothing to loose. if nepalis die it doesn't make a difference to you... its not your brother, sister, father dying.

we all know there are many things to be done before we can have sustainable peace. but at least we are moving in the right direction. so cheer up and give the peace process your blessings.

 
At 10:23 AM, November 09, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

You stupid goddam moron.

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write that the monarchy is NOT the single solution?

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write that the King is ill-suited for running Nepal but he can be absolutely essential in providing another check and balance to Girija's unilateralisms?

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write that I wish the King, as the only entity able to command a credible opposing force, the RNA, use his power to let the army clean out the Maoists once and for all?

Pay attention to what you read here, idiot. Jumping to un-researched conclusions about blogdai's allegiances gets you nowhere. And who cares anyway? Is that the big goal here again? Find the royalists? Well, you've certainly saved Nepal with your proclamations, that's for sure.

When the maoists come to your village to murder your family and sell your children into conscription, you should sleep easily...at least they're not royalists, right?

 
At 10:36 AM, November 09, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

And oh yes, let's watch our wonderful peace process take hold.

Let's welcome Prachanda into the family as a conquering hero.

Let's let him continue his murderous practices that have cost Nepali lives in the thousands.

Look, Prachanda does whatever he wants because he CAN do whatever he wants. there is no credible opposition to stop him.

I'm so sorry you don't want to excise the cancer that is Maoism for fear that the process may be painful. Perhaps if more people learned to negotiate with cancer it would eventully play along and stop destroying it's host right?

Forcibly trying to remove the thing that is killing Nepal is much too "Rambo" I would think.

And what does cancer left untreated become? More cancer. If prachanda ascends to the seats of power in Nepal, every two-bit thug in Nepal will think that armed extortion and murder is the only sure-fire way to gain riches. Do we not see that a Maoist movement that results in a successful rise to legitimate power establishes a dangerous precedent for those seeking political influence in Nepal?

Until Maoism renounces violence and ALL those who have killed and murdered innocent civilians are brought to justice--setting another precedent--you will see no peace and no viable government in Nepal.

-=blogdai

 
At 11:54 AM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai,
These are some of your glorious quotes. I suggest you read them and ponder over your inconsistencies and lack of a coherent thought.

Blogdai says:
“HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write that the monarchy is NOT the single solution?”

But then he goes on to say:
“No, G. needs to regroup, throw the bums out again, and turn his RNA loose on the Maoists once and for all.”

Blogdai Says:
“G. is neither relevant to nor responsible for the current political malaise in Nepal.”

But then he goes on to write a thread titled: “Hey King: You blew it”

Blogdai Says:
“HOW MANY TIMES do I have to write that the King is ill-suited for running Nepal.”

But then he goes on to say:
“Nepal, especially G., has made the mistake of bowing to world pressure”

Etc. Etc. These are actualy quotes by the way. I am not making it up.

Blogdai, I could have used several insulting words myself but I did not wish to stoop to that level. Anyway you should learn to take criticism and feedback. Don’t call me fool and idiot etc. If you cannot hold yourself up to scrutiny and criticism then you should make that clear on your blog that dissenting opinions will not be tolerated. Don’t take it personally its just the nature of the beast (blogging).

Anyway back to the issue. I think you are wrong. The best solution to the Maoist problem was a negotiated settlement – which seems to have been achieved. A military solution did not work and it would have sent Nepal into many more years of bloodshed and violence. Whatever, you may say the amount of violence and killings have stopped since the Maoists have become more mainstream.
Yes, the extortions and intimidation is still a major issue. As per the agreement this will stop! So let’s see. Already people have started protesting against the Maoist excesses…
While we must remain cautious, this is by far the best achievement in Nepal since 1990 boudal. Please don’t tell me about the post 1990 chaos and the corrupt politicians. Democracy takes time to function… let’s not even get into that.
‘When the maoists come to your village to murder your family and sell your children into conscription, you should sleep easily...at least they're not royalists, right?’

I don’t want to sound like one of those pro-republican king haters but that’s exactly how the royal regimes ruled – through intimidation and oppression so let’s avoid this issue.

Blogdai, I don’t like the Moaist anymore than you do. But if this agreement is going to tame them and make Nepal peaceful then even Prachanda deserves a chance.

“Until Maoism renounces violence and ALL those who have killed and murdered innocent civilians are brought to justice.”

As far as the agreement goes they have renounced the violence – to a large extent anyway. They have agreed that the UN will monitor the arms on CCTV. I think that’s a fair concession and the Maoist cadres will be in cantonments as well – seems fair to me – if they follow through that is. And the UN will monitor the elections. Sure the UN is worthless but they still have the ability to monitor elections.
Now about bringing Prachanda to justice. I used to think he should be sent to the Hague and tried like Saddam. But along with Prachanda you have to send Girija and other SPA leaders too who authorized Operation Kilo Serria in which hundreds on innocent Nepalis were killed. You have to send the King as well who ordered to kill people etc.

And finally let me just point to you as I think Bhudai Pundit did in one of the posts. It was the King’s Feb 1st move that aligned the Maoist and the SPA and gave the Maos all this credibility and power. Think about that one!

 
At 1:13 PM, November 09, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Absolute mis-alligned bullshit.

The quotes you supply are neither contradictory nor damning. In fact, you make my points rather than dispute them.

I too would prefer a negotiated settlement and it appears we have one, but once again (sigh), what possesses you to think that a Maoist will keep any agreement? To provide a corollary to Dr. Mark's famous quote, I offer you this: "A hopeful agreement does not insure or provide for the method of its success."

Do not embellish or manipulate your own history. You cannot possibly equate Maoist atrocities with any concerted act by the royals. This is not to defend them, however. they were aloof, detached from the people and yes, often cruel. But, there was never a time when they went door to door demanding money and food, killing innocent civilians in mass or conscripting children and killing their teachers. There was NEVER such a level of cruelty perpetrated on Nepal's citizens in such a consistent and vicious manner as there is by the Maoists today. NEVER.

Cheap attempts at revisionism of one's history is an attempt at diversion and I smell my usual SPA and Maoist friends at the helm of these postings. Just simply declaring stupid shit does not make it a verifiable part of history. Plus, if ol' King G. was from a long and vicious line of killer royals, why didn't he just open fire on the demonstrators? I was at the demonstrations and there weren't that many people. In fact, they were easily scattered with tear gas. One little volley from an M-16 would have solved the problem right there had G. been a true descendent of the vicious Shahs that you claim. G. is as bad as the Maoists, so you think, and the Maoists wouldn't have wasted a moment in slaughtering a group of people who oppose their viewpoint. So, golly, what held killer G. back?

And the biggest grasp you make is blaming G. for the Maoists increased relevance. Perhaps he should have just left them alone to rob and pillage unabated? Oh dear God, in what corner of your mind did you manufacture this tale? I would love to be able to laught at the simple, childlike attempt to again twist events, but blogdai is becoming increasingly distressd and the fundamental disconnect some of you show for reality and the simple rememberance and understanding of events in recent history. Look, events happened. they stand alone for analysis. Just because you may have a differing ideology, it doesn't mean that the facts change. I'm really beginning to believe that some posters have capacity issues with basic discernment, cognition and rational thinking.

You willfully will not remember this but here it goes: Girija has always courted the Maoists. As early as 2003 and perhaps earlier when girija resigned from office due to a Maoist attack. Surely in 2003 when peace talks had a real chance of success and the Maoists were pinned down on issues it was obvious to see--and was reported in Kathmandu papers--that Girija organized a protest program as a diversion to get the Maoists off the hook. Naryan singh Pun, a blogdai friend, couldn't believe the blatent attempt by the NC to disrupt the talks in an apparent attempt to keep the Maoist's position in tact.

Now, here comes g's takeover and girija is marginalized and irrelevant. he made a conscious decision, a choice to make his deal with the devil. maoists were weakening and it was a simple matter of two wrongs combining forces to try and gather some momentum. girija needed guns to be taken seriously and Prachanda needed to look more mainstream so he could garner world attention and sympathy. G.created a weakness that forced events. He did not force an agreement to form SPAM. It was a match of desperation; a match made in hell.

You need to address the problems that Nepal faces now, on the ground, instead of looking for cheap carnival ways to make the King responsible for everything.

Put it this way, suppose you win? suppose you can successfully blame the entire royal history of Nepal for all the ills of the modern world as you see it. Then what will you have? Yes, once and for all, G. and the Shahs are definitively proven to be the devil. Don't stop there, however. Go ahead and kill all the royals and take their property. Feel better? Now, what do you have? You still have an ineffective, corrupt government and a violent terrorist group running wild and killing at will in you country. Is that your definition of victory? Does that give your simple perceptive abilities a sense of closure?

The royals are neither the issue nor the problem. Either grow up and pay attention or get the hell out of the way.

-=blogdai

 
At 4:24 PM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous prism said...

Blogdai's fervent tone reminds me those of Marich Man Singh during the final days of the Panchayati regime.

The Constituent Assembly was a demand that B.P. Koirala made after the 2007 movement. The monarchs of that time dilly-dallied and eventually precluded it from ever taking place. Just like Feb. 1, King Mahendra usurped a budding democracy with the purpose of "strengthening" it.

The bane of the monarchs has not been through the blatant terrorism that the Maoists visited, but through cunning "patriotism". It's only fair that the King is now under the ballot just like everyone else should be.

 
At 4:30 PM, November 09, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Ok, ok. Let me come down a bit.
I've been a little cranky through my last few posts. I do get extremely frustrated with one-issue idealogues and those without a sense of overview as you can see.

So, let me say something positive; the fact that there is world scrutiny and approval for this new peace accord bodes well for its success; if for no other reason than world pressure being so severe that it overcomes legislative ineptitude.

blogdai has and always will be a pragmatist with a strong sense of the long view, but I will allow myself, just this once, to share in the hope and positive atmosphere that is now pervasive in Kathmandu.

blogdai hopes that all parties involved live up to the agreements drawn and set forth during the negotiations and peace prevails, finally, in Nepal.

I congratulate all parties for reaching such a historic accord.

-=blogdai

 
At 6:27 PM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai,
You claim that you get frustrated at repeating yourself and answering stuff you never said.
Well I never said the Monarchy was the problem either. So I don't know why you into that rampage.

Look if the Maoist don't live up to their agreement, then the Nepali people will resume fighting again. Simple as that. You have seen how people are already protesting against the Maoists.

I have said that I am not pro-republican or anything. But I don't think your argument that just because G didn't open fire and kill everyone is isn't a dictator. Sure he is and if he had his way he would like nothing more than to be a dictator.

Anyway like you mentioned this isn't the issue here.
Let's just wait and see what happens.

 
At 10:10 PM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous sarki ko choro said...

Here is some of other point of view from Janadharana. It is nice to know that I am not the only one who thinks this is a sad day for our country. When violence seems to get you to the power, you are bound to get more violence ..

मध्यरातमा राष्ट्रघातको विजारोपण
( नागरिकता समस्या समाधानका नाममा भारतीयहरूलाई नागरिकता दिने प्रपञ्च, ४० लाख भारतीयहरू जेठ अगावै नेपाली नागरिक बन्ने)

काठमाडौं । नेपालमा अवलम्बन गरिएको संवैधानिक राजतन्त्रात्मक बहुदलीय प्रणालीको विकल्पमा साम्यवादी गणतन्त्र स्थापनार्थ २०५२ साल फागुन १ गते सशस्त्र व्रि्रोहमा उत्रिएको नेकपा -माओवादी) अन्ततः प्रतिस्पर्धात्मक बहुदलीय प्रणालीमा विचरण गरेर आगामी मंसिर १५ गतेदेखि सरकारमा जाने निष्कर्षा पुगेको माओवादीको यो विचरणलाई विश्लेषकहरूले ठूलो फड्कोको रूपमा विश्लेषण गरेका छन् । अन्तरिम संसद्मा ७३ सिट हासिल गर्न र नेपालको मुख्य वामपन्थी घटक नेकपा -एमाले)को समकक्षी बनेर सरकारमा समान हैसियत हासिल गर्न मुलुकका करिब १५ हजार निर्दोष नेपालीले ज्यान गुमाउनुपर्‍यो, खबौर्ंखर्ब आर्थिक लगानीका भौतिक संरचनाहरू ध्वस्त भए । लाखौं नेपाली आन्तरिक शरणार्थी बन्नु पर्‍यो । दश वर्षलामो हिंसात्मक एवं विध्वंशात्मक द्वन्द्वपछि गत वर्षनया“ दिल्लीको पहल र सक्रियतामा तयार भएको १२ बु“दे समझदारीमा टेकेर अघि बढेका सात दल र माओवादी २०६३ साल कार्तिक २२ गतेको मध्यरातमा एउटा तार्किक निष्कर्षा पुग्न सफल भएका छन् । सशस्त्र व्रि्रोहरत माओवादी शान्तिपर्ूण्ा रूपमा प्रतिस्पर्धात्मक राजनीतिमा विचरण गर्न सहमत भएकोले अब माओवादी पक्षबाट नेपालमा हिंसात्मक व्रि्रोह नहुने र शान्तिवहाली हुने आशा यथास्थितिवादीहरूमा पलाएको छ । परन्तु, मध्यरातमा भएको बालुवाटारको यो समझदारीले मुलुकमा जघन्य राष्ट्रघातको विजारोपण भएको पनि बौद्धिक क्षेत्रबाट विश्लेषण भैरहेको छ । कमसेकम माओवादी पक्ष यो सवालमा सचेत रहने आशामा तुषारापात भएको छ ..
for the rest go to Nepalnews.com

 
At 10:36 PM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Assumption that people will fight back if maoist does not adhere to agreement is a deadwood logic. I wish I could be optimist like you but I do not have it in me. Pretty soon they will go after each and everyone who do not think like them, act like them or be like them. The reason being simple- class, so easy.

You make king dictator even with his repeated pledge for Multiparty democracy with invitation to parties to come with concert idea to run the country san the corruption, their stance on Maoism, and code of conduct but guess what, they preferred an easy way out. All because they could not make one damn agenda in the better interest of the country, they looked to safeguard their vested interest rather than of a nation by joining hands with the devil. And, now devil is going to and is making them pay its dues.

I guess in hearts of hearts we are all looking for a dictator, frankly speaking. And we have got it in the form of SPAM ( recent make up of seats in assembly smacks of that- 73 seats for Maoist without an election, is this one party rule or what?) with head of a dictator being India. So long people- cry all you want, cannot deny the fact that we are now in India dominated, massaged and dictated rule. Talk about hallow nationalism, you've got it, no doubt about it.

 
At 11:28 PM, November 09, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could not help it. A must read.

Maoists' Hands Are Stained With Blood Of The Innocent
By John Lama

It was a great mistake for Prime Minister Girija Koirala to take Maoists' words at their face value. Their commitment to peaceful transition and competitive parliamentary democracy is nothing more than a macabre ostentation. They were desperately in need of some stranglehold. Amidst burgeoning odds, the Maoist leadership was fervently looking for some subterfuge. Girija Koirala's attempt at accommodating the Maoists could turn out to be a devastating nightmare for democratic forces.

The agitation against the royal regression was motivated by a host of factors. Most important, a burning vengeance against King Gyanendra inspired Koirala, the leader of the seven party democratic alliance, to go to any extent. Gyanendra's manipulative obduracy to prevent Koirala from stepping into the shoes of Deuba, Chand and Thapa pricked him the most. Instinctively a narcissist, Koirala was nastily narked at being ignored by the monarch.

Collusion with the Maoist terrorists against the institution of monarchy was a gambling for the octogenarian leader of Nepali Congress. Without doubt, it was not only against the spirit of BP Koirala's principle of national reconciliation. Verily, it represented a callous stabbing behind what BP Koirala, the founder of Nepali Congress, stood for throughout his life. The moment Girija joined forces with the Maoist terrorist outfit, Nepali Congress lost its identity as what its leaders tend to boast of being a savior of democracy and human rights.

Nepalese monarchy was bound to be destroyed under the weight of King Gyanendra's hubris. Gyanendra who is widely suspected of being the mastermind behind the royal massacre of 1 June 2001, woefully failed to fathom "people's power". He was convinced that people would not support political parties for what they did during the 12 years of multi-party democratic dispensation. They twisted democracy beyond recognition. They made a mockery of the rule of law. They embezzled national exchequer. So-called democratic leaders, who were respected for their valiant role in the 1990 movement, had reduced themselves to grotesque scoundrels and squalid buffoons. Moreover, they unleashed a sordid legacy based on the bizarre travesty of rule of law.

Gyanendra himself did not do anything for the Nepalese, either. Worse still, during his visits to different parts of the kingdom, he tried to sell false promises and fantastic dreams to millions of Nepalese who were deprived even of basic necessities of life. Virtually he did nothing to redress their economic grievances. Nor did he embark upon any creative solution in order to protect them from Maoists' barbarism and savagery. Instead, his military lieutenants were accused of having been involved in the supply of arms to terrorists. His ambition to emerge as an active monarch was equally taken as a direct challenge to the fundamentals of democracy. And the Nepalese were not prepared to tolerate this decadence even at the cost of their own lives.

The resentment of the Nepalese reached its climax last April. People's power prevailed. The king had no choice but to relent. However in the process, several forces including Maoists, tried to define people's victory in their own narrow terms. By using the sheer power of intimidation, terror and murder that they were unleashing for the last several years, Maoists continued to prevail over the seven party democratic alliance. Democratic forces were swayed in such a way that even the newly-restored House of Representatives began to function as a puppet in the hands of Maoists. It seemed as if the terrorist outfit had cast black magic over them.

Democratic alliance led by the Nepali Congress lost both reason as well as the sense of direction. It seemed as if it were suffering from amnesia. The major objective of the April movement was declared to be the restoration of democracy. But in the aftermath of the movement their declared mission disappeared into oblivion and the Maoists' goal - establishment of a democratic republic as a strategic prelude to subsequent communist totalitarianism - came into the forefront. Those struggling for multi-party parliamentary democracy started dancing to the tune of nihilist Maoists whose sole objective is to reduce the entire kingdom to a contemptuous communist nightmare.

Equally abhorrent is the uncanny obsequiousness of Nepalese intelligentsia. Without even a modicum of resistance they seem to have submitted themselves to Maoists' coercion and eccentricity. It appears as if they were subconsciously trying to avenge the royal authoritarianism by being subservient to unscrupulous Maoist diktat. A majority of them feel comfortable in playing second fiddle to the Maoist leadership that is squarely responsible for the gruesome death of more than 15,000 Nepalese and the wanton destruction of physical infrastructure.

So far, Maoists appear to have notched up something substantial. But I don't see any reason why protagonists of democracy and rule of law should be exhilarated. Democracy and Maoism are mutually exclusive. They cannot coexist. Sugar-coated pronouncements of the Maoist leadership - including their commitment to democracy, human rights, independent judiciary, free media, competitive politics and peaceful transition - should not be allowed to camouflage their endemic proclivity towards intimidation, terror, abduction, violence and extortion. The hands of Nepalese Maoists are stained with the blood of the innocent. Peace and harmony do not exude therefrom. Nepalese society ought to treat them accordingly.

The so-called settlement reached between the seven party democratic alliance and the Maoists needs to be viewed against the above perspective. US ambassador to Nepal James F. Moriarty sounds prescient when he observes that Maoists cannot be trusted unless the spirit of the settlement is reflected in their future deeds. (11/09/06)

Sansar

 
At 3:21 AM, November 10, 2006, Anonymous maobadi said...

i visit this site run by a darbariya dalal's son-in-law to learn how the buggers are reacting. but usually don't comment. some do flock uwb and others but they feel safe here.

it was interesting to note the change in tone. till the agreement was reached these bugs were crying in high pitch and voltage. after the agreement the decible is low, because of the shock. they are 'hataprava'

utho keta ho. jago. don't become devdas or surdas.

 
At 3:45 AM, November 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been reading few comments blaming only the Maoists. They have made mistakes but let's stop potraying security mechanism and Army as 'saviours' of Nepalese people. They have been equally, if not more ruthless. You can say they were doing job etc etc, but trying to stop terrorist does not mean capturing a 15 year old girl, torturing and physically abusing her leading to her death (Read about 'Maina Sunuwar'?). And this is not a single incident, there are many more and wonder how many are still hidden under the blanket. So lets not be one eyed - mistake is misate whoever makes it. And regarding the Kings not extorting money (as Maoists are doing), then where did the thousands of ropanies of lands and who knows how many millions in Swiss banks come from?
-Sagar

 
At 5:03 AM, November 10, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess truth really cuts deep. Side stepping the crux, blaming the self made demon and justifying butchery, extortion and intimidation is mucho grande' but like the famous line from Reagan "you can run but you cannot hide," this momentarily lapse of insomnia will be have rude awakening. Lo behold the rational people will start doing rational thing and that is justice, peace in real terms and equality, not forced, but with human dignity and pride.

Some much for accusations and stereotyping- weak people tend to group together and only see what they feel comfortable in seeing, being, and doing. And you should know who I am talking about.

 
At 6:22 AM, November 10, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

RNA saviors? Certainly not.

RNA as effective counterbalance? Most definitely yes.

-=BD

 
At 11:56 AM, November 10, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

Counterbalance to what?
Don't you mean the NA (not the RNA please) is a security apparatus?

 
At 5:09 PM, November 10, 2006, Blogger the undercurrent said...

ok.........whats going on... blogdai is still skeptic.....me too.........
bhundai pundit... you have come back from the adventurous world of democracy to reality...thats good too.....i read bug.com.np...

i think, as a stupid nepali, we should support girija and his gang....
they are, by definition, a bunch of terrorist....dont make me explain how...but thats alright....as long as that means peace.......for a week or two... and may be its exponentials...........the longer the peace....better the lunch break.....

supporting janatantrik morcha or something like that..pro right wing or what ever it is ....not me......that brings unrest to nepal..........i am for peace..whatever the cost........
for, nepalese..the majority of them..as i think.. don't give a damn who rules...as long as they get to live their lives........peaceful, laborous lives.....we are not afraid of working...we can work our asses off to feed our family....thats nepalsese for me....well........i am just a stupid fool hoping too much.. so i will let you intedctuoals ruin my country..........


NB: blogdai.......its ok not too have moderations.......i guess thats democracy for us nepalese.....but when people start abusing each other.. i cant claim to feel i feel good.......if you would...please see that personal attacks dont show up in your site......just a request......

blog dai....feel free to moderate these comments... or add to it... as you see it appropriate...coz, i like the way you think........you might be a little too much on the right.....but atleast you can think........ wish the rulers were like you..

know that your views are worthless in front of nepal, the nepalese, and their idiocracy......... we do what pressure wants us to do......not what we WANT TO DO...... but its alwasys right to put forth a voice for the useless, worthless, powerless, nepalese.....
may god kill us aalll..........
and bring forth a better well grieved understanding nepal.........

as the_undercurrent
--g

 
At 5:27 PM, November 10, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

good honest sentiments, --g.

We here at blogdai can proudly say that we've been without moderation for quite a few weeks now.

I realize that just proclaiming this might incite our cadres of boo-babies waiting in the wings to pounce, but no matter.

We do, however, let frustrations be expressed. I am perhaps the most guilty poster in this regard. Yes, I would care for more thoughtful and polite discourse from time to time; but Nepal is in a place right now, that concerned people on all sides of the issue seek ways to express their feelings. Often this results in insult and personal attack.

We generally allow this here. To me, it is a bigger insult to post something that shows stubborn closed-mindedness or just a lazy lack of attention to positions already established here. With so much at stake in Nepal, such ignorance is the greatest type of profanity.

-=blogdai

 
At 6:51 PM, November 12, 2006, Anonymous Bhudai Pundit said...

myabe its time for a new thred blogdai...

 
At 8:38 AM, November 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it's time for a new blog and a new nom de guerre blogdai!

Times have changed, and so will loyalties.

 
At 10:31 AM, November 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

More than ever, it is now time to re-introduce contending intellectual forces in Nepali politics. So far we have only heard of one-sided rhetoric from SPAM; so far it has simply resulted in agreement - further sharing of Nepal-pie between the crooks and the bandits.

Where is a counterbalance to insipid Maoist ideology? How do we address the growing encroachment of super-left-driven foreign intellectual class and to some extent - the media and academia?

As someone rightly pointed out earlier, it is time for reevaluating loyalties as well as re/introducing old/new ones which is more pragmatic and real in its approach.

-1000 Rudras Dancing

 
At 6:47 AM, November 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

blogdai,

for the umpteenth time...make an account in yahoo or hotmail or lycos or somewhere and post it here.

this is urgent now!

 
At 12:49 PM, November 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because of the recent political developments, Maoists gearing for peace, and preparation for constituent assembly election, this blog is getting more irrelevant every single day.

Going forward, Blogdai has two options:

1) Keep on criticizing the SPA-Maoist deals, who are making a peace deal and Blogdai will sound like a loser supporting the monarchy, which is as unpopular as ever and is on it's way out.

2) Accept the reality, move with time, appreciate the positive developments, give constructive criticisms and Blogdai will have many people flocking this blog.

Just a thought.

 
At 2:34 PM, November 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Immortal words of Bruce Springsteen:

"You cant start a fire, you cant start a fire without a spark
This guns for hire even if were just dancing in the dark"

Can you hear the silence before the storm?

 
At 3:09 PM, November 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog is dying. It is indeed time to switch alliance.

Just when peace is breaking, some retards want to start a "storm". Heck, is it a competition to be who is the ugliest one??

 
At 7:00 PM, November 14, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

Dying no; a much needed purge, yes.

Our staff has decided that a simple chat-fest is not the right direction. People tend to carry their little arguments from blog to blog; often co-opting a good thread in the process.

Look forward to more selective responses from our principles and more attention to relevance, competency and content as a standard for posting.

Good times ahead! Get ready.

-=blogdai

 
At 7:59 PM, November 14, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai,

Oops!! “Our staff” . And we thought, you are a recluse who operates alone. Looks like a slip of a tounge in delirium seeing all ‘red’. Tsk! Tsk! Tsk!

Chod deu, blogdai, ee sabai bakamfusi kuraharu. Ke garnu, timile prayatna ta gareko ho ni, kasaile timra kura nasune pachi!!! ee murkha haru ko ghaita ma gham lagne walla chaina, timro tourch light le ke hun cha ra?

 
At 8:47 PM, November 14, 2006, Blogger blogdai said...

A vote of confidence indeed! However, the light has neither changed nor dimmed--perhaps the increasingly clouded prism through which you view it is the culprit?

-=blogdai

 
At 11:02 PM, November 21, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not able to open the comments section of " A Fundamental Disconnect" . I click on it and then it turns up a BLANK PAGE and internet operation says DONE.

Anyone having the same problem. Blogdai, hurry up and do something. No time.

 

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