Sunday, July 26, 2009

Clinton in India

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton smiles bravely while trying to take down junior Forestry Minister Jairam Ramesh in a hand shake death match.

Amazingly stupid move on India's part this week. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton paid a visit to Nepal's big brother this week and the overtones should have been obvious. Just by the tone and temperature of Clinton's appearance, it was clear that the U.S. was testing Indian waters for the future. Clinton kept fawning over how much she loved India, ate WAY too much of the wonderful cuisine there and giggled like a school girl while chumming around with the girls at the SEWA foundation. Oh, she also opened up new nuclear agreements as well as trade and energy technology sharing contracts.

So, now any one of us who pays attention to such things should not view such things lightly. Sec. Clinton came to India ready to listen and trade--a real U.S. priority shift.

BUT NO.... Intellectually as well as politically junior minister Jairam Ramesh had to lecture the Secretary on India's carbon footprint. Ramesh must have felt this was his shot at the Big Time as he scolded Clinton on India's emmissions and said there was “no case” for the West to push India to reduce carbon dioxide emissions when it already had among the lowest levels of emissions on a per-capita basis. He later went on to threaten tariffs of some sort against the U.S.

Bravo junior minister idiot! Way to spin world pollution standards in India's favor. India always comes out ahead when they measure on a per capita basis since Indians can't seem to stop having dozens of children at a time and their "per capita" output of the same has now eclipsed China.

Typical Indian political arrogance. Puff yourselves up by pretending to lecture the most important people you can find on the merits of Indian policy. Well, you guys might have blown it. Clinton was in Delhi for a very specific reason. The U.S. wants a new partner in the region. A little preparation on your behalf, minister moron, and you would have known that environmental issues are a hot button with the new U.S. administration. A little diplomacy would have gone a long way but India turned the issue into cheap Delhi street brawl.

The Yanks don't like to be lectured so don't be surprised if Clinton takes her wicket and balls to some other nation. Did you see how she cozied up to Thailand after her India visit? Who can blame Clinton if she wants to take U.S. business elsewhere. Unconfirmed rumors have spotted Clinton measuring floor space in one of those fancy new Bangkok skyscrapers; just enough space to fill all the call center and customer service jobs she plans to take out of Bangalore--so the rumor goes.

The Larger Implications

The U.S. is fed up with China. They've spoken in hushed tones over the last decade or so; afraid to upset some nebulous concept of this great Chinese market that will soon be tapped into by American goods and services. They've patiently watched tainted products, Chinese government interference in transactions, a falsley supported Chinese Yuan distorting the true market, and gross, barbaric and childish human rights violations against just about any group that does not toe the Party line in Beijing. Now, the Chinese brand is tainted. They don't "get it" with regard to world market credibility and the U.S. is going somewhere else. THAT is what the Clinton visit to India was about and THAT, New Delhi, is why you'd better learn to control your renegade low-level politicians.



At 6:05 PM, July 26, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

welcome back 'Dai..

At 3:09 PM, July 29, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now clinton is talking to China again. What fool is India

At 10:04 PM, July 30, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This means nothing for Nepal. India will still be big boss and Madhesi and Terai will come to Indian territor soon. America do not care.

At 6:05 AM, August 02, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anon at 10.04 pm:

Do Nepalis actually deserve an independent country? Why blame all manner of people and forces, both real and imaginary? How about taking a little bit of responsibility for our actions - like the signing of the 12 point agreement by the Noida criminals under Indian direction? Just who do you think these leaders are - martians? They might as well be, but let's not forget that we elevated them there. If GPK, Dahal, Makune, Jhallu, Upendra, etc, etc, etc,all no good, anti-national, corrupt scum, what does that make us Nepali people?

At 7:26 AM, August 02, 2009, Blogger blogdai said...

I don't think it makes us equally scummy, but I see your point.

What we are is apathetic. We've had no stake in the political process and we've allowed the scum to run the country.

If we take responsibility for our actions by first paying attention and getting involved in the political process, then we will deserve our own country.


At 11:50 AM, August 02, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blog dai,

I agree with you to a point, but have to respectfully disagree with your statement, "I don't think it makes us equally scummy..": it makes us worse. And apathy is merely an excuse where Nepal is concerned.

Let's face it, we blew it and it's too late to undo things. It's time to move on and not repeat those mistakes elsewhere. Indeed, it has been a costly lesson, but so be it.

There should be no looking back for those who are out or who can get out. For the rest, damn care.

This is not defeatism; it's long overdue catharsis. Let’s be honest, that’s not a bad thing at all and sooner we turn the page and get over it, the better - for all concerned.

The past is a foreign country and they do things differently there. Let's make the most of our lives wherever we are, looking to the future and making the most of the opportunities that are before us. We owe ourselves no less.

The rest it utterly irrelevant.

At 5:40 PM, August 02, 2009, Blogger blogdai said...

Duly noted and your forward thinking is well received here at the blogdai offices.

My concern is that there is a sense of abandonment, rather than "catharsis" in your writing. Are you "out" or "looking to get out" of Nepal? We all understand this position of course, but when do we move beyond making the best lives we can for ourselves and instead concentrate on the good fight of making Nepal better for all those who can't get out?


At 5:45 AM, August 06, 2009, Anonymous sannyasin said...

But what can be done? the power in Nepal resides with those who do the country the most harm and they won't relinquish that power easily. Unless the CIAA, Police and Army have a massive crackdown on corruption and crime and lock up a few thousand crooked bastards and bring into force draconian powers to stop any future corruption and political criminality, there's no hope of an end to all the shit. And since the Police and Army are up to their necks in corruption, there's not much hope of that happening.
The probable involvement of the Indian RAW in destabilising Nepal doesn't help matters - the new counter intelligence agency is about 20 years too late to stop that..
America will probably turn a blind eye to Indian meddling in Nepal now they've agreed to sell India arms and nuclear power installations. The Yanks don't care as long as their gap year brats can go trekking..
What to do? Shoot the Maoists and YCL, hang the rest of the politicians and their followers, give the country back to the people and put Blogdai in charge!!!!

At 5:33 AM, August 09, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

conspiracy theory?? -

At 7:16 AM, August 09, 2009, Blogger Bhudai Pundit said...

I apologize for changing the subject here but does anyone know what organization in London was responsible for inviting and hosting Prachanda? If so please share that information.
We always talked on this blog about doing something and making a difference. Well maybe this is an opportunity. I would personally like to share my displeasure and disapproval at this organization or whoever 'invited' Prachanda. The Maoists now obstructing and causing all sorts of racket in Nepal while Prachanda while he is off touring with his family in London?

At 8:29 AM, August 09, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the biggest beneficiaries of the massacre were the Maoists and their Indian masters, who is to say that these elements did not plan and implement this heinous crime? Leaving aside these theories, what about the massacre of the innocents in Jajarkot or Madi? Do we really need to speculate on these?

At 9:55 AM, August 09, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public Meeting in London with Prachanda August 10th - Woolwich Town Hall

Former Prime Minister and chairman of the Unified CPN (Maoist) Pushpa Kamal Dahal 'Prachanda' arrived in London Saturday evening on a five-day visit to London to apprise his party workers and supporters regarding the decisions made by the recently concluded Central Committee meeting and the latest strategy of his party.

Members of Nepali Samparka Mancha UK, entrepreneurs and social workers welcomed the Dahal family at the Heathrow Int'l Airport.

During his stay in London, he will address a gathering of Nepalese at the Woolwich Town hall, south east London, on Monday afternoon and interact with Gurkha veterans on Sunday, organisers said.

A number of Nepali organisations have invited him for meetings during his stay in London, reports said. There is also speculation in The Nepal Telegraph that Prachanda will meet with RIM and CCOMPOSA leaders in UK to discuss differences. -

At 7:10 AM, September 02, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, what's Blogdai's opinion on the whole RAW meddling in Nepal debate? eg -
"India has openly meddled in Nepal's internal affairs by contriving internal strife and conflicts through R.A.W. to destabilize the successive legitimate governments and prop up puppet regimes that would be more amenable to Indian machinations. Armed insurrections were sponsored and abetted by R.A.W. and later requests for military assistance to control these conflicts were managed through pro-India leaders. India has been aiding and inciting the Nepalese dissidents to collaborate with the Nepali Congress. For this they were supplied arms whenever the king or the Nepalese government appeared to be drifting away from India's dictates and impinging on India's hegemonic designs in the region. In fact, under the garb of the so-called democratization measures, the Maoists were actively encouraged to collect arms and resort to open rebellion against the legitimate Nepalese governments. The contrived rebellions provided India an opportunity to intervene militarily in Nepal, ostensibly to control the insurrections, which were masterminded by R.A.W. itself. It was an active replay of the Indian performance in Sri Lanka and Maldives a few years earlier. R.A.W. is particularly aiding the people of Indian origin and has been providing them with arms and ammunition. R.A.W. has also infiltrated the ethnic Nepali refugees who have been extradited by Bhutan and taken refuge in eastern Nepal. R.A.W. can exploit its links with these refugees whenever either country goes against Indian interests. Besides, the Nepalese economy is totally controlled by Indian moneylenders, financiers, and business mafia. (See "R.A.W.'s Machinations in South Asia" by Shastra Dutta Pant, Kathmandu, 2003.)" or
.. true or just chinese disinformation?

At 4:56 PM, September 02, 2009, Blogger blogdai said...

RAW is India's plan "B" after the Maoist failure. Apparently, those in power in Delhi believe that throwing successive waves of incompetent rebel movements in Nepal, Nepal will remain controllably destabilized.

Delhi is only half correct. The other reason for Nepal's failed condition is the apathy of its citizens.

Other than that, the article you provided seems a composite plagarization of everything we've been writing here at blogdai over the past 4 years.


At 2:46 PM, September 04, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai, I am glad you are back. Was wondering what happened to you.

I am no supporter of Congress party in India and their support for Christists, Mohammedans, Socialists and Communists, but I was happy when the idiot Jairam Ramesh talked about evidence against global warming. That is a hoax and Al Gore is cashing in on it.

At 6:39 AM, September 08, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

At 6:47 AM, November 26, 2009, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anon@2.46pm- Global Warming is not a hoax, we all know that.

To Blogdai- Why do you think New Delhi is that stupid? New Delhi and Clinton both knew what the agenda was, although for ppl at the outside like you and me, it was made to look like an environment issue. India perhaps wants to come out a winner on its own and not align with US long term. Is that why they remained mum and only had someone idiotic like Ramesh deal with Clinton?

This is with a belief that India does have smarter brains than you.

=Astute Observer

At 7:34 AM, April 18, 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asshole Nepali
India is way out of your league so stop worrying about us and care for your own. And when it comes to breeding you beat the bunnies- no wonder the fuckin Bhutanese kicked your sorry butt out. The rest of the world should follow suit.

At 10:03 AM, April 28, 2010, Blogger blogdai said...

Sorry, but Nepalis don't seem to do the following:

Relentlessly pursue Baksheesh

Grope each other in public places

Depend heavily on U.S. call centers to support your inflated egos and economics.

Spend themselves into debt and suicide to pay for your ridiculous weddings.


At 10:00 PM, May 01, 2010, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No supporter of Jairam Ramesh or the Congress but Global Warming is a hoax based on fake data and the Copenhagen conference had nothing to do with pollution but with creating a license-raj of carbon licenses that would be sold by Al Gore.

He has already hoarded up a huge number of those licenses and is now desperate to get new customers to buy them off him because his holdings have become worthless after EU got flooded with these licenses as a result of the shutting down of manufacturing units in weak economies in Eastern Europe. The best way to increase costs and create an artificial demand is through legislation.

At 1:59 PM, July 25, 2012, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't completely understand your stance blogdai,But remember one thing if you are not in India's Side your are a chinese ally and vice versa.But nepal needs to have someone's alliance out of India or China to survive.Because my guess is India wants its dependent government but china wants No Nepal(merged into itself like tibet).Recent RAW report(all over news)stated that there will be India(Supported by US) and China Skirmish soon and Nepal might get crushed in between.


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