Friday, August 01, 2008

No Summit for China

China's alleged torch summit of Everest, complete with no bearing for verification, a casual lack of exertion on the part of the participants, and moist breath with no rime ice.

In light of the new information being reported on the wires about Chinese olympic "ethics," such as the reversal to allow journalists unfettered access to the internet, the blatant forging of 14 year old gymnast He Kexin's olympic application so that she appears 16 and thus, within olympic rules; and the increase, rather than decrease of stringent clamp-downs on all manner of dissent; we here at blogdai feel its time to report on a story we've been working on for a few months now. Most of you know of blogdai and June's repulsion at Chinese bullying, so we have been very careful to verify sources, interview those present, and intensely study all film footage involved so as not to present the facade of impeachable bias against the Chinese. So, after almost 2 months of research we here at blogdai have concluded:

China faked their olympic torch run to Mt. Everest.

We have friends who were among the first to summit Everest after the climbing ban was lifted. Their comments help inform this report. Plus, we've interviewed climbers, famous and lesser for their opinions and their startling insights.

Some observations supporting our theory:

----No "money shot." All photos taken are from close range making verification of the summit difficult. Most, if not all expeditions take the photo proof shot, regardless of weather. Proof lies in showing a recognizable land feature or peak who's perspective in a summit photo proves the altitude and angle that confirms a successful bid. The Chinese offered nothing more than close-in shots. Even an "immediate space" shot was not available (at least none that we could find) to verify the approximate dimensions of the summit area. Also, there was no apparent evidence of the old, faded prayer flags that mark the summit and have been known to stay in place for a few seasons or more. Prayer flags in Chinese photos stand alone and look newly placed.

----China's dubious ascent in 1960. They've done this before, apparently. Sketchy verification of a summit bid in 1960 is still in dispute in some climbing circles. They claimed to have climbed it at night so verification was difficult. Hmm.

----The claim of "mysterious lights" near the summit. Hard to buy since Nepal maintained armed guards from camp II upwards on the Nepal side to prevent anyone sneaking up on the Chinese. What were those "lights" then? Perhaps a loose-lipped expeditioner was seeing members of his own support team near the much lower level that they were actually reporting from.

----Chatter boxes. Through the summit torch lighting ceremony on Youtube video, women climbers are heard chattering away in the background with out a hint of the exertion expert climbers feel at the summit of Everest. They are talking in long, single-breath sentences. Ask anyone who's summited Everest and they'll tell you it's not a place for a monologue. Short, clipped sentences are all most can manage at that altitude.

----Moisture. No one we've spoken with who has summited Everest has ever remembered there being fog-like moisture coming from a climber's breath. They few times moisture has been present in the atmosphere near, but much lower than the summit, other phenomenon present themselves as one of our experts mentions below:

The one thing that struck me funny about the footage; if you watch it, you see peoples breath. In my 8 years on that hill, the air is too dry on top to see your breath that much. They were also not that iced up, if it indeed was a moist enough storm to see breath, they would have been covered in rime ice. They would have seen no other lights, as the military at camp 2 on the Nepal side made sure no one went above them.

Friends of blogdai at summit of Everest just a few weeks after the China's alleged summit. Peaks in the background give reasonable verification. "Game's Over: Free Tibet" banner was a nice touch.

---- Chinese footage on Youtube showing a long line of climbers traversing a long pitch is not recognizable as a portion of the north face ascent of Everest and may be tied to a secondary peak.

----Climbers and blogdai contributors who were among the first to summit Everest after the alleged Chinese bid report no new flags, momentos or any evidence that the olympic torch ever reached the summit.

----By their own claims, the Chinese torch bid was doomed to fail simply by their planning hubris. A quick, alpine-style ascent is a sure recipe for failure on Everest (Unless you are Reinhold Messner) Our blogdai consultant was waiting to summit from the Nepal side during this time and filed this dispatch:

The (Chinese) truly (expletive) themselves with an elementary mistake, by the sounds. Drop your camps in the windy spots, don’t leave them up unattended to get ripped apart...


So, blogdai has a request: climbers and anyone who knows, chime in here. Thousands of you were in the Khumbu at the time of the Nepal ban and the Chinese attempt. We want to hear from you. In the interest of fairness, we will give first priority to those who can offer definitive PROOF that the Chinese actually made the summit of Everest with their damn torch.

Even more, blogdai opens up the discussion to anyone with an opinion on this. Get informed first. Google "China Everest Torch" or anything similar; go to and watch all the footage you can on the Chinese bid and report your opinions here. Good luck and good hunting.



At 8:12 PM, July 31, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What gets me in all those official pictures is that I can't see one camera among the climbers. Were they not allowed? You'd think in China's moment of triumph you would want as many pictures as possible.

hmmmmm. is right blogdai.

At 2:33 PM, August 01, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been waiting for this kind of story for a while now. Thank you. Some of my background:

During the the week prior to China climbing Everest, the weather was abominable and there were rumors that the Chinese had cancelled their attempt. I say this as an expert because I was flying tourists back and forth to Lukla as co-pilot for Sita Air out of Kathmandu. Lots of heavy security checks all along the route, I'm told from returning trekkers. Snow on the Nepal side. I just can't see how they would make it up the hill in the one or two days of good weather they had.


At 7:58 PM, August 04, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Problem is, Blogdai, climbers in Nepal are so selfish and aloof that they won't say a thing for fear of losing their permission to ascend peaks from the China side. This happened back when those Tibetan nuns got shot in the back on the nangpa la.

Save the world as long as it doesn't interfere with my personal recreation, right? What a sad world we live in.

At 1:21 PM, August 05, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeez o' Pete Blogdai! You have caught a tiger by the tail here. Have you seen the exposure this story is starting to get on the newswires?

At 11:09 PM, August 05, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a neutral observer, I can see how laughable this conspiracy actually is. However, I really enjoyed reading it so thank you blogdai!

At 9:59 AM, August 06, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

Laughable indeed....

Since news outlets have picked up on this story from our blog, more questions have been raised by readers:

--Reports stated that the Chinese turned back at camp IV due to weather

--No oxygen bottles are ever visible. Only a hospital/style rebreather mask and a tube going into a backpack..

--Some Chinese climbers on the "summit" have no masks at all but wear an almost suicidal simple cloth mask around their face. This traps CO2 more and makes the fight for precious oxygen even more difficult.

--Climbers are seen boosting a member on their shoulders at the summit, laughing deeply and heartily, and brushing off their masks--a seeming inconvenience--so they can make long-winded speeches.

--All footage, even the "summit" shots never seem to be on the summit of anything. There is always something above the climbers.

--Distance footage of the climbers ascending a ridge abruptly switches to footage from a different part of the day,as evidenced by shadows, yet the master clock on the screen shows no difference.

--Footage of climber carrying torch lenten in a cannister pans downward to a shot that appears to be Rongbuk glacier, but is in no way a summit shot. The climber continues to ascend in clear weather to the horizon. News reporters say he is "minutes" away from the summit and that they must shut down the cameras to save batteries. Actual claimed summit footage shows no such ridge "minutes" from the summit. Only a line of torch bearers, in heavy cloudy weather walking towards the summit.

--The video pan to Rongbuk is shown to the right of the climber. Later at the summit, a quick pan to the right shows what appears to be Cho Oyu, which would be a pan of more than 180 degrees to the right and opposite of the rongbuk shot. One of the two is not a near-summit shot although both claim to be.

--Torch bearer in orange parka takes slow, measured, almost theatrical steps up the hill as a support climber sprints up behind him and appears to be trying to run past. Was this guy in the orange trying to simulate high altitude walking?

Lots more of these observation are showing up on the web; not all of them are from conspiracy theorists. Climbers who've summited from the north face have also chimed in.

Much more to come....


At 10:52 AM, August 06, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sorry but why do we care about all this again? How is this relavent? Who gives a fcuk that China's touch ceremoney on top of Mt. Everest was not real?

Bhudai Pundit

At 12:59 PM, August 06, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

China doesn't ask, it demands respect from the world. China wants to be recognized as a world economic power and leader. Unfortunately, Westerners with greedy intentions towards this eternally "potential market" are all too happy to give China anything it wants. "Let's not offend the Chinese" is the no-matter-what mantra.

Sorry, blogdai doesn't work that way. I've turned off my greed button in order to see clearer. If China truly wants to be a world leader, it must fall under the same scrutiny and criticisms that all other world leaders have overcome in the past and continue to fight to this day.

What rule says we must give China a free pass? Leaders must earn the right to be leaders and all leading nations have made mistakes on a grand scale. They have, for the most part, learned from the mistakes of history and have moved forward; that's why they are leaders.

There are plenty of opportunities for the Chinese to learn from the mistakes of history, become world citizens and eventually, leaders. Disturbingly, in the many dialogue sessions that June and I have had with the Chinese, it becomes clear that those frommenting pro-China arguments would rather use the mistakes of history as an excuse to commit the same mistakes in China today. "Well, you Americans supressed the American Indian" and "don't talk about China when the Indian sub-continent was under the brutal British Raj for many years." Scary. I suppose, under that logic, the Chinese will feel free to persecute Chinese Jews simply because "well, Hitler did it."

The problem is, cutting off dissent, limiting the expressions of a free press, gross human rights violations and an overall bad temper do not a world leader make. What sort of template does it give to the world when the most prosperous and rich country gets there by cheating, imprisoning, banning and condemning its way to the top?

Banning Joey Cheek, the speedskater, from Beijing is the most recent example. Mr. Cheek's work on Darfur issues is in the highest tradition of olympic integrity; yet, it "offends" China so they ban him.

So, to China: Until you are ready to be offended, scrutinized and criticized and until you realize that being a good world citizen is the first step towards national greatness and world acceptance, you are not ready to lead anything.

Our job is to let China know how the world community thinks and what it expects of its leading nations. We must call China to accountability for every gymnast's passport forged, every dissident jailed, every monk imprisoned, and every summit faked.

Failure to do this is tantamount to world acceptance of all the Chinese actions we find objectionable; and gives China a tacit nod of approval to continue its abhorrent policies and practices.


At 2:17 PM, August 06, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is in agreement with Bhudai.


At 3:26 PM, August 06, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spot on B-dai. Stop cow towing to these spoiled brats. Your greed observations are right on too. When will we learn that all the profit potential in this Chinese market is worthless when the Yuan is government supported and China backs away from or changes trade rules and safety standards at will.

BTW, about this Everest thing, did you ever wonder what happened to all those triumphant climbers? China's big moment and not so much as a hero's welcome for the climbers. No interviews that can be found, no photos of the return to base camp. Where are they now is the big question. Hidden away so they won't talk?

At 9:15 PM, August 06, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

blogdai, very well said,

So, to China: Until you are ready to be offended, scrutinized and criticized and until you realize that being a good world citizen is the first step towards national greatness and world acceptance, you are not ready to lead anything.

Our job is to let China know how the world community thinks and what it expects of its leading nations. We must call China to accountability for every gymnast's passport forged, every dissident jailed, every monk imprisoned, and every summit faked.

I think blogdai is extremely patient with the Chinese government, more than it deserves. Hope the blogdais in this world can help change China, if the latter has the sincerity to take the right steps to become a good world citizen.

At 4:52 AM, August 07, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Since news outlets have picked up on this story from our blog,"

Which news outlets?

I googled it but could find nothing. More lies?

At 6:20 AM, August 07, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

You Google poorly then,

A standardized story is being copied and distributed to various news outlets., in australia, and a handful in India. When you see the same standardizes story, word for word published in various outlets in the region, what does that tell you?


At 11:31 AM, August 07, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

We are really starting to get some traction on this story:

And others. If you can't find these links, just Google "blogdai" for these and more. Have your mommy do it for you if you're too busy pouting. (We get a lot of whiners here who love to scoff then, miraculously, turn off their ability to think)


At 11:48 AM, August 07, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

My evolving opinion:

Based on what we've been hearing from all kinds of individuals, smart and not, my feeling is that the harsh weather hit the Chinese on their way up to camp IV. The "summit" ceremony was actually conducted on or near a ridge close by or even lower than camp IV.

Ban the Yanks from the Olympics!

Oh, how offensive to the Chinese! the Yanks have chosen for their flag bearer in tomorrow's opening ceremony, none other than Lopez Lomong; a 1500 meter track specialist from Sudan and a "lost boy" militant child. He made his way to U.S.-ville and became a track star.

Having a national team led by someone with possible ties to the Sudan and Darfur must be added to the ever-growing list of things that insult the Chinese. Perhaps they will ban the U.S. in the opening ceremonies until Mr. Lomong is removed?

Damn Yanks, repression and the exploitation of Sudan are some of the pillars of Chinese policy. There go those crazy Americans interfering in the Intenal affairs of a sovereign nation again.


At 8:32 PM, August 08, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having been on a north face ascent, I can tell you that Rongbuk is visible via the final pitch. I did see the other footage and the pan off to the right that you describe is definitely not Rongbuk so there remains some questions regarding the differing videos available on line.

At 7:58 PM, August 10, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

To all our Nepali posters who can't see past their next subsidy check from ICIMOD, and wonder why we worry about China and this issue, a word:

Nepal is coming under increased scrutiny for its caving in to China's demands--particularly in the area of human rights as it pertains to Tibetans living in Nepal.

Nepal bowed down deeply to China by closing one of its largest sources of tourist income: climbing fees to Mt. Everest during the Chinese ascent. The world is aware of this.

drawing attention to a potential summit fake by China draws attention to China's pattern of fabrication and bullying of its neighbors--like Nepal.

The world must monitor China's actions in the region for their purpose and authenticity lest the Chinese run roughshod over its neighbors with impunity; all the while claiming what it wants without a hint of scrutiny.

Faking a summit,at the least, represents a microcosm for China's influence in the region. They can and will manipulate the Nepali government--interfering with Nepal's internal affairs--until Nepal is a de-facto Chinese protectorate. They will claim to the world that everything they do is in the interest of Nepal, and eventually, as we saw a few years ago in Kathmandu, unsolicited businesses, political advisors and observers will intervene with impunity in the daily lives of Nepalis.

What about this could possibly make the average self-absorbed Nepali choke on his dal bhat? Well, guess what? The world knows of this manipulation but is powerless on the ground to stop it. Seeing a politically hapless Nepal, world powers will use the only method available to them and CUT OFF OR REDUCE FOREIGN AID TO NEPAL! We see no other choice for neutralizing a politically adventuresome China.


At 8:12 AM, August 12, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

As if to add fuel to the flame, the Chinese did it again! They faked the fireworks display on the Olympic opening ceremonies telecast.

Appears their CGI gurus added the "footsteps of history" fireworks to world TV broadcasts via animated supplements.

Their single biggest moment in the world's eye and they can't even bring themselves to non-manipulation? It makes our case for the Everest torch fraud much more compelling.


At 2:27 PM, August 12, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai, were they trying to hide that fact?

At 4:17 PM, August 12, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

as for the fireworks, apparently no, but they did not announce the fact openly during the ceremonies other than to say it was a partial "cinimatic effect."

Yank correspondent (and complete Khumbu-bashing moron) Matt Lauer announced to 70 million viewers that it was "in fact" foot shaped fireworks emitting over central Beijing.

As for the fake little girl, surprisingly, a Beijing news outlet disclosed the fraud after the fact. China defenders mistakenly say this proves "a free press operates in China." No it doesn't. Chinese officials, again did not disclose the lip synch of "Ode to the Motherland" until after the fact saying it was in the "national interest" to not show the real singer since she, apparently was not nationally interesting enough to look at. The pretty little girl with the crooked teeth who appeared on TV never sang a note.


At 4:21 PM, August 12, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

Actual objective Chinese journalists and commentators in Beijing were appalled at the twin deceptions saying that it sends the wrong message to the world and Chinese citizens and implies that deception is acceptable.

How true.


At 2:37 PM, August 13, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The underage Chinese child gymnasts adds to the sleazy factor and fits in nicely with the theme here.

At 3:37 PM, August 13, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

The thing that strikes me as the most odd, now that this story has been out a while, is that when anyone climbs Everest, they make sure they VERIFY their achievement so that all will know.

Keeping foreign jounalists down at base camp, forcing nepal to suspend climbing from their side, and the absolutely unexplainable, almost willful sense of concealment of location shown in all footage makes me think the Chinese had no intention of summiting this past May.

Or, to be fair, as we know, the weather was awful in the week prior to China's summit attempt. Perhaps they simply gave up and faked a few cloudy summit shots while relying on year-old footage to fool the world.


At 9:29 AM, August 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indeed, all climbers that summit a major peak are closely scrutinized as to the veracity of their summit claim. Several frauds have been detected in the past (probably only a small fraction, but nevertheless), and the climbing public came down hard on those impostors. Why should a grand claim of putting an Olympic torch on top of Everest evade such scrutiny?

The complacent attitude of some bloggers on this post ("who the heck cares if China summited or not") and of the general public is troubling and supports the notion of a double-standard. Perhaps climbers should stand up for the notion of integrity and truth and voice their concerns.

At 12:07 PM, August 14, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...


Integrity and truth might be making a rare appearance very shortly in the form of a climber with a conscience

Stay tuned....


At 9:39 AM, August 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We Nepalese are in no position to criticize any country's internal problems/issues. Most Chinese are very nationalistic and supportive of their government. Granted there are certain groups that are in disagreement with the central government but which country doesn't have factions/group that seek autonomy? Plus people don't seem to see the positive side. Look at the massive investment and improvement in Tibet - the infrastructure, health care etc.

Anyway all this is beside the point. We now have a new prime minister in Nepal and maybe we should move on to a different thread.

Bhudai Pundit

PS: Blogdai, you critisize the Chinese government for censorship. But in your own forum you have a system where you have to approve the content of the post before it gets posted. Some would call that IRONY.

At 10:22 AM, August 15, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

“The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all” --Alexander Soljhenitsyn

We in Nepal not only should bring to light what we know of Chinese activity, we have a DUTY to do so. Is it mere nationalism that China can force Nepal to shut down its climbing revenue stream in peak season.

Should we dismiss the blatant incursion of Chinese border police into Nepal to enforce Chinese policy simply because Nepal has a new prime minister?

If Nepal wants to be considered independent and not a third tier recipient nation, we must not play into the selfish stereotypes that Bhudai perpetuates here.

Would you sacrifice Nepali culture and practice at the altar of nice new Chinese "infrastructure?" If you are a Tibetan, you're not given a choice.


At 10:26 AM, August 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My what a shiny new toilet I have! I'd better start learning Mandarin so I can get a new kitchen to match!

Can you blame him blogdai? Nepal has been on a subsistence level of poverty for ages. Taking care of yourself is ingrained into the Nepalese psyche.

At 1:52 PM, August 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogdai and Anon (Blogdai’s minion from the above post):

Please stop being so overly pretentious and get over yourselves. Yes we all know China has a human rights problem. Hell who doesn’t have a human rights problem? That’s not to say, of course, that we all look the other way and do nothing. However, this constant China bashing is getting really old and now it’s become a Hollywood fad. Tibet is a serious issue but there are two sides to the argument. Every country has the right to want to retain their national sovereignty – including China. Look at our reaction to the Medeshi’s demand for an autonomous Madesh. We were all huffing and puffing that Nepal as a country is going to disintegrate if this were to happen. So how do you want the Chinese to react? Should they just let Tibet declare independence tomorrow and be done with it? I cannot stand all these people and countries with their double standards propagating their holier then thou image when it comes to China. There are some issues where China needs to be criticized - like doing business in Sudan. But the West and people like you need to learn to pick your battles.
The point of the massive investment in Tibet is to try and bring Tibetans to mainstream Chinese culture. The positives have been that Tibetans have much better access to health care, education, sanitation etc. The negatives has been that their cultures has become eroded… but this erosion is a result of many young Tibetans who get enticed with the modern life, new ideas and technology. Hell look at Nepal and how Nepal has changed … we’ve already scarified our culture and practice to mimick Bollywood. Why is there no outrage there? You are concerned that China is going to shut down our climbing revenue because they asked not to let climbers climb during the controversial torch procession? That’s what you are concerned about? HA! If you are concerned about nationalism why don’t you write a thread about how the Indian Oil Corporation can shut down Nepal has a country in the blink of an eye?

"Taking care of yourself is ingrained into the Nepalese psyche"

That's ingrained in everyone's phyche - rich countries especially. So please save me the greenpeace/amnesty international sweet talk. I'll let you get back to listening to your John Lehnon and your $4 latte.

Bhudai Pundit

At 8:16 PM, August 15, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

We've now asked a handful of respectable climbers and Everest summit achievers to review the available footage and give an opinion. No name dropping here, so you'll all have to wait.


At 4:25 PM, August 16, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh jeez, I might as well talk to the wall (no pun intended). Not sure where you are going with this but I hope you figure it out before the start of the next Olympic games.

At 5:35 PM, August 16, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

Relax, We've got some big bases to cover here over the next few days so blogdai wants to keep this story front and center for just a while longer.

Coming up...blogdai's Prachanda extravaganza!


At 2:37 PM, August 17, 2008, Blogger Arvind said...

Thank you blogdai for this brilliant expose! So here is a list of Chinese deception so far uncovered.

1) Olympic torch on Everest
2) Breeze for flag
3) Computer generated fireworks
4) Singer at opening ceremony
5) Minorities at opening ceremony
6) Age of gymnasts
7) Claim of selling 6.8 m tickets
8) Fake fans and cheerleaders
9) Rower missed race (why? because drug test was on?)
10) Judges in shooting cheated (Aussie shooter reported that Chinese missed the target but judge ruled in his favor)

At 3:05 PM, August 17, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

Nice compilation, Arvind.

Educate me on the "breeze for flag" thing; I'm not sure I know that one.

And the hits keep coming. Women's butterfly swimmers for china finish 1 and 2 and no one has ever heard or seen them before? Speculation is that they snuck under the drug testing radar.

By now some of you are asking: "Why is blogdai picking on China so much." If I didn't answer it above (12:59 August 6) then let me add.

No one is saying China has to be perfect. No one is saying that other countries and cultures don't cheat. Many of us would like very much to have China enter the world as a powerful economic partner, why not?

The problem is, China's actions are from the context of their world leadership being a secretive and totalitarian one. I'll explain: The faking is poor, the bullying is rampant and overt, and the the finger-pointing accusations shrill, unfounded and childish. China wants to be a leader on its own, repressive, communist party terms, not the world's.

It's one thing to cheat. Sure it's bad and it tarnishes one's reputation for a while. It's another thing altogether to institutionalize cheating and deception; repeated incidents with no explanation or apology support this.

We are all bending over backwards to try and bring the Chinese into the 21st century. We've looked the other way on their behavior for far too long.

And with all these reports, what has China gained other than the reputation of a potential world partner that must constantly be watched and monitored to insure its forthrightness. What kind of partner is that?

In our global market and society, trust and integrity is the foundation for good relationships and alliances. China, at least the Chinese government, still feels that bullying and deception leads to world respect. Sorry.

It is now time to hold China fully accountable so that they, at the very least, will know that the world is watching and will hold them to a newer, more modern standard.


At 2:26 AM, August 19, 2008, Anonymous B said...

I absolutely agree with bhudai. All of yous need to sort out your priorities and perspectives.


At 9:06 AM, August 19, 2008, Blogger blogdai said...

So, your priorities are just Nepal and your immediate concerns, right? Keeping in check a hegemonic neighbor is no priortity to you, right?

How about India annexing large chunks of land in the south for hydro generation. Shouldn't be a priority to a Nepali, right?

National identity? Sovereignty? Self-determination? Forget that, right? We in Nepal need petrol and foreign aid, not our own country.



At 3:59 PM, August 26, 2008, Blogger Woeser said...

I am in complete agreement with Blogdai. Very interesting and insightful blog. Looking forward to read more of your blogs. Peace..

At 12:08 PM, January 21, 2009, Blogger Khusi said...

well blogdai china faked everythig this olympic from voice to lightworks and even torching everest...... one vid(chinese tv news) that i watched in youtube had height of everest "8844" on the screen where they torched the light....well what can one say now a big "FAIL".


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