Monday, February 07, 2005

The State of Dis-union

As thought, some communications have been restored to Nepal. Make your phone calls now while you have a chance. If you can't get through, we are told, keep trying. Those of you still interested in blogdai finding someone in Nepal, contact or wait for more communication options to emerge. We will still attempt to find those on our lists unless you request a cancellation.

A little unforseen problem for the King. Communication crack-downs always seem to cause more problems than anticipated. Nepal's new bag of troubles includes: some $8-$10 million dollars stuck in mid-transfer from international banks seeking to wire money to Nepal; credit card purchases and ATM withdrawls denied from lack of wire connection to verify funds; and international flight confirmation made impossible due to inability to code verify through the international reservation system, resulting in cash-only, first come first serve airline ticketing.
Blogdai has maintained throughout the postings that it is impossible to isolate a country again, once it has opened itself to the world. Nepal is not North Korea.

Two interesting quotes from the Indian media that were released almost simultaneously:
The first states that "India is dead set against third party negotiation" for this crisis. Blogdai wonders why? One can assume that India considers Nepal to be its personal fiefdom. The next comes from the King who says: (paraphrasing) "..Nepal is committed to multiparty democracy, but this is impossible while the Maoist threat exists.." Sounds like the foundation is being laid for a military movement against the Maoists. This is expected, but will China have a role in this movement? Blogdai says, yes.

Blogdai works for the CIA. False. I refuse to spend my life collecting business cards.
Blogdai works for the King. False. I personally can't stand the guy but give him his chance.
Blogdai is an alien. Only in countries other than my own.
There is some sinister purpose behind Blogdai. True. I like open communications and a free press.
Blogdai is anti-democracy. False. I am against mis-appropriating the term for personal gain.

Many of you are wondering about blogdai's identity and method. Forget it. Blogdai's sources and communication lines would be jeopardized. This may well be a moot point in the next day or two anyway. Hopefully we can all get back to talking politics and making fun of things.

A bit of a note on the level of discourse of this forum: blogdai has stayed awake quite a bit during this crisis in an effort to find information. Years of on-the-ground experience help me find information in obscure places- like the wide myriad of Nepali chatrooms. Being sleep deprived, I have made what I thought was a mistake by posting our forum's details on these sites. As a result, we have had a wave of chat-room style, invictive-laced, vitriol from some new fast-typing friends that is not always based on sound principles of argumentation and debate. -----But now, after some sleep, I think we need this. These are, generally, young, frustrated Nepalis. They don't like foreigners telling them about their country. They don't necessarily want to hear outside solutions either.

Therein lies the conflict: if we at do not debate these issues, who will? Cultivating world opinion and interest about Nepal adds to everyone's knowledge. This knowledge may even help prevent some of the silly tabloid journalism that we are currently hearing about Nepal from the West. Truthfully, Westerners can't begin to understand the passions and convictions of Nepalis during this time. A recent history of unstable governments, the murder of a beloved former king and Maoist atrocities have thrown most of the citizens of this peaceful nation into anguish. Go ahead, read through some of these postings. These people have had enough of western preaching; they just want some peace.


At 2:41 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A pretty good "news-scraping" service.. blogdai, I too have been lurking around various newsgroups in an effort to get any useful snippet of information. Seems though that there are plenty of trolls out there.

Some other observations:

I've been surprised about how the intelligence services of various countries have been caught on the hop about events in Nepal. I always thought that Nepal was spy country with all those embassies bristling with antennae and eavesdropping equipment.

Also it seems that the king chose an auspicious date to assume control of government. I read somewhere that some noted astrologer predicted that the end of the Shah dynasty is nigh. Not that I take much credence in this sort of stuff but maybe the king does. Anyone care to enlighten us?

Naagboy aka Jaankri

At 2:54 PM, February 07, 2005, Blogger blogdai said...

Naagboy, thanks. Being a sort of buffer state, Nepal is crawling with people being paid to get information from and for other people. If you think that intelligence agencies were caught off guard, otherwise they might have influenced or prevented what happened, think the exact opposite.

At 3:19 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Point taken Blogdai. Information and disinformation..

An article on king G.,8599,582486,00.htmlN.B. this is over a year old.


At 3:20 PM, February 07, 2005, Blogger rysolag said...


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At 3:47 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No idea who this guy is but it's a well-formed argument and I tend to agree. I like the title of the argument as well but you decide for yourselves..

At 6:01 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry for the anon -- too lazy to get an account -- sleep deprived and computer-overload.

But as a Westerner who was honoured to adopt from Nepal a beautiful son, I appreciate the education of this forum. So teach me, so I may teach my son.

I want him to be proud of Nepal, of his heritage. I raise him Hindu, as best I can considering there is no community, not even an Indian one nearby.

We say namaste to the only image we have of Lord Krishna.

So thank you for this site. I hope I will be well educated, if even biasedly so. May I be able to vet the truth (as it may appear) from the completely opinionated passion of individuals, so sayeth Herbert Butterfield as all history is written by the victors, if even unfortunately so.

Thanks again -- educate me.


At 6:08 PM, February 07, 2005, Blogger blogdai said...

Very lovely comments: blogdai is not skilled in such things but you cannot get a sense of what it is to be Nepali without being in Nepal. You obviously love your child very much. Get him out of the West during his developmental years and get him to Nepal. I'm Not talking about a vacation either.. Spend a year at least. -=blogdai

At 6:17 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I regret my post. I seek education, and I get a lecture to get out of my country as if that were even possible, to live abroad for a year.

And yes we plan to make return visits (note the plural, please) including one this year. But it presumptious of you to assume we can leave for one year. Perhaps you are independently weathly, but we are not.

Nevermind. There are others who will help me create a culture here, albeit not completely authentic.


At 6:45 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I don't think Blogdai intended to offend you or lecture you. I think he is probably just as weary as you and I are at the moment and made what he thought was an innocent remark.

Perhaps if you indicated where about in the world you are based then people on this forum could give you some ideas.

BTW if you do visit Nepal, I would recommend visiting West Bengal where there is a large Nepali population as well and a different mindset although still quintessentially Nepali.

If you are not offended by the thought then perhaps you may want to delve into your son's background ethnic group as well. I'm not one for "jhat" or believing one ethnic group is above the other but for example the Gurungs, Kirats, etc have their own belief systems and festivals, which are quite different and very colourful.

The fact though is that Nepal is a real melting pot. Something that makes it special in my mind.

Time for bed..


At 7:09 PM, February 07, 2005, Blogger blogdai said...

Blogdai thinks that this is a classic example of a well-meaning cross-cultural exchange that went poorly due to cultural perceptions and differences.

It is a microcosm of the Western media's approach to understanding events in Nepal. Well meaning or not, foreign perception of events in Nepal cannot adequately comprehend Nepali thought or emotion during these times.


At 8:45 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't really agree with this so called Blogdai's faith in democracy. No body with fatith in democracy or one who has understtod democracy will even think of supporting this bastard for the military takeover.Raising alarm over the misuses of democracy of one thing but supporting the rise of a ruthless regime with the backing of military is another thing entirely.

At 9:34 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We live in the bigoted South, near the coast, where my soon to be 4 year old son loves swimming in the ocean.

My son was found on a street corner in Kathmandu -- Naxal -- Mali Gaun (I believe is the spelling), thus his heritage is unknown. I have been told that he bears resemblance to Chetri and Brahmin ethnicity. I fear giving more information about him at this point.

But I might add that although we live in the South, we work and consequently live in academia, so are a bit removed from the everyday flow of Southern bigotry.

And blogdai -- I don't presume to know Nepal, but I expect others to help me understand, if possible.

I once had a class called the African American experience in literature. There were 5 whites to 30 African-American students. The professor would continually say "you African Americans know what I am talking about it." I was taking this class because I wanted to. So I asked some of those students what did he mean. They told me they did not know how their skin color imbued them with some ethereal knowledge. Eventually I asked the professor if he would illustrate the point for all of us, to help us understand the African American experience in literature.

This long winded diatribe is a parallel blogdai. It is like you are some special group and no way in hell am I ever going to understand the Nepali traditions, the Nepali way of life, the Nepali clique. Despite my best efforts to do so for my son and the daughter I wait for.

I humbly seek ways to keep him connected. I take him to the temple at 80 miles away for tika during Dasain. We have programs to learn the language, children's books to remind him of the life, and more.

So I don't need you to point out my ignorance. I am already aware of it. I only asked you to help bridge it. But perhap I ask too much of you and should seek it elsewhere.

Thank you -- for what you do


At 10:24 PM, February 07, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What an odd discussion to find here. But, I shall join in as I am the mother of 2 Tibetans and a Pacific Islander, now for more than 11 years. I would suggest that while it is possible to give them a great respect for their cultures, it is not possible to recreate the culture itself. That is too complex and deep. I can give them the surface things- and do- but the deep underlying culture is beyond my ability. And this despite my husbands deep involvement with Tibetan Buddhism. 6 months after we adopted our older kids they met some lamas and had "forgotten" the language. Simply refused to speak a word of it. Now in their mid teens they are just like their peers. And going and living there for a year would still give them only a partial experience- they will be strangers to the culture, as would you. And they may be more focused on the differences and ways in which they are not a part of it.

They are going to want to connect with the parent's culture- that is part of the bonding experience. And for a while, do not be surprised to find your child actively rejecting their original culture. Again this is a part of becoming the child of a parent. It has been fasinating to watch my daughter incorporate her own understanding of her various heritages. Kids are going, in the end, to do what they chose to do. You can only offer them opportunities. And whatever you do they are going to be a mixture that they will decide on. It will be your authenticity that they pick up on- your real appreciation of parts of their early culture that they accept. It is a wonderful and eye opening experience. Enjoy each step of the way.

At 12:53 AM, February 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Blogdai
Me and my wife have a ticket to nepal 18.2-24.3.05 Do you think it's possible to come to nepal (I was in this beautiful country 4 times before) without beeing in danger?

At 4:05 AM, February 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a very intelligent and educated person who happens to be from Nepal once say that we (Westerners) are first world angst-oriented persons, which I found wonderfully funny and sad because there is an inherent truth to it.

But I venture to say that you blogdai are certainly third world angst-oriented.

And sadly it seems the twain shall never meet at least by your perspective.

You provide a valuable forum, but one obviously not prepared to address my needs as they pertain to my Nepali born son.

No I cannot make him only Nepali as he does not live there, and sadly his experiences will only be vacations. But, he will be Nepali American. He will have the best of both worlds, if I have any power at all to make this happen.

Thank you recognizing your limitations and to others who opted to respond to such an odd forum topic.


At 4:21 AM, February 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yu can safely visit Nepal, as long as you are not a NEpali journalist or human rights activist. The question is; should you? Is it ethical to spend you money in a country now ruled by a dictator that rounds up journalists and tortures them?

At 5:08 AM, February 08, 2005, Blogger blogdai said...

Yes, travel is opened now and tourists report business and life, for tourists at least, is normal. Thai flights have just resumed and you should be ok in Nepal as long as you don't start an anti-monarchy demonstration. -=blogdai

All of these comments are wonderful. -=blogdai

At 7:25 AM, February 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A.P. you need to get over it man! Any idiot can see that blogdai was going out of his way to be friendly. It says a lot about you that you come to politics blog to find out how to raise child. This not the place. You say teach me, teach me but how you get through school if everything offend you? If you no nothing about Nepali culture, why have adoption? Why you keep comming back here? You say your piece over and over again. Man, you can figure out child, just try it.

At 3:11 PM, February 08, 2005, Anonymous Anonymous said...

so yu dalits just diss on blogdai? Ke gareko? he may be makhune but only one telling truth out there.

At 8:52 PM, February 08, 2005, Blogger Morquendi said...

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At 10:16 AM, February 03, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

just checkin how it works


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